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Uptade. Twist Damascus revealed after stripping old blueing and paint

Uptade after stripping paint. Twist Damascus barrels revealed Uptade Just striped the paint.... Twist Damascus revealed!! No "sleeved" proof marks on shotgun. It would be a revelation for all of us to find out about the Blands out of Bland range!!!!

Uptade Just striped the paint.... Twist Damascus revealed!! No "sleeved" proof marks on shotgun. It would be a revelation for all of us to find out about the Blands out of Bland range!!!!

Indeed this was common not only in England but in Italy Belgium, Spain and Germany. I have a linsley bros hammer shotgun, most propably made by W&S Barrel has matching numbers though and the gun is not marked "sleeved" No "sleeved" proof marks on shotgun. It would be a revelation for all of us to find out about the Blands out of Bland range!!!!

Thanks for all your academic work! I may never discover the real history of the shotgun if I don't get an official answer from the records holder. Since there are other similar T. Blond and Sons with SN above 1900, and based of what you quote from Brown, it's a possible assumption that some of T. Bland shotguns are a some kind a trade result and got a SN 21xxx up to 24xxx.

Well... Indeed it's a nice hammergun, I m looking forward to see it after a careful restoration. For its history, I might never discover it!

From Woodcock Hill website

So, that said, I can narrow the date range between 1904 - 1925. Hence, this brings up another problem. From what I read, at least, the addition of plural on the name (sons instead of son) took place in 1936.

Proof marks shown aren't in use until 1954?

Got an answer from USA. Woodcock Hill sold Blands name and records, but kindly passed my email to the new owner. So, I am waiting for an answer from him. Meanwhile, I keep finding online similar T. Bland shotguns with SN above 19000. Maybe he had other SN for export shotguns? Just wondering.

SN is repeated on action flats, barrels and trigger guard (photo 1 collage). I found a similar gun on Bonhams auctions with similar SN (photo 4 screenshot). I have already e mailed the USA guy

I really don't have a clue! I' ve purchased the gun just today. The only thing I know is that it was bought by the previous owner from an auction in the UK. The proof marks show definitely a Birmingham pre 1954 shotgun. Trying to dig in it's history and find out!

Unfortunately the previous owner.... (you better sit first before you read it) spray paint it🙄. This is the reason I got it for a bargain price. I will reblue it of course along with a full restoration

Hi there, just purchased a Thomas Bland and sons 12g hammergun. Can anybody help with dating the shotgun and find out its model (if any). Details As far as I know the plural (son vs sons) begun at 1936. From the proof marks I can tell that is a pre 1954 shotgun so I narrowed the date between 1936 - 1954 (if I am right). The name T. Bland and sons appears on both sides of the action and on the top of the rib (no address). The serial number is 25697. The Birmingham proof marks on the barrels are the crowned BP NP and BV. Nitro proof also written. Left barrel marked "choke". Both barrels marked with 12c in a rombhus. Also on both barrels an indication of 1 1/8oz found. Right barrel marked bore size 13/1 left barrel marked 12. On the action's flat the is a capital B in a rombhus. Thank you!

Hi, Can anybody tell what the initials GI under crown stand for on Belgian Shotguns? I believe it's the gunmaker's initials Mark, because they don't match with any official belgian proof marks. Thanks