Windswept
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1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:
Terry 2016, you certainly seem keen to post about the danger of lead pipes and as you say they have been banned since the 1970's.
Those that are left are invariably on the waste side of the water, i.e.used to take waste water out of the building.
The issue here is about the use of the best material to kill birds in the air.
There's still plenty of lead supply pipes in use. Where I used to live on the edge of a large city all the water company pipes that went down the roads to feed houses were still lead. Most houses have replaced the feed from the road to the house with plastic but I can't see that helping much. Many of the lead pipes get disturbed by road works, traffic etc so I can easily see lead getting into drinking water.
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1 hour ago, Conor O'Gorman said:
No transcript - best to just listen to in the car perhaps? It's a great listen IMHO.
I don't drive that much although you seem to have missed my point. Many people don't listen to podcast, if you want to get your point across then a transcript is helpful, if you can't provide one then some platforms auto generate one so worth looking at.
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Is there a transcript? I don't tend to have time to listen to them but would like a transcript I can search and ideally references to back up what's said.
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Have you searched online for a blank? Some places sell then for £10 but I do not know the quality. It could also be worth emailing the maker of you cabinet to see if they sell or recommend anyone for key blanks.
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16 hours ago, BobbyH said:
500 cork wads £13.50
As steel is much harder than lead most, if not all, load data and commercial cartridges will use a thick wad cup that keeps the steel away from the bore. With .410s the only wad I know of is a plastic TPS wad which was 32p each when last in stock, but haven't been available for ages and will likely cost more. That's compared to your 3p cork wad for lead loads.
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21 minutes ago, BobbyH said:
I'm not a game shooter, so does this mean that shooting grounds can turn around and still allow lead shot, even after the ban?
No is the simple answer. From what I've read from the HSE about the proposed ban it will be a ban for all shot, including target shooting. The latest consultation I completed even suggested any transition period could be fairly short due to the 'voluntary' transition.
I can't see a ban not happening but I have no idea what length of time we'll get to use lead up or how long it will take for a good, reliable, supply of steel shot .410 carts to become available.
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11 minutes ago, Conor O'Gorman said:
Sorry, I am not going to make enquiries and then make public statements on this forum about cartridge manufacturers commercial interests. That would not be appropriate and I hope you can understand that.
Not really, no. I don't see how it matches up with the sustainable ammunition days or some of BASCs other work. You don't need to name the companies just give some indication that work is being done. At the moment I can't see much, if anything, has been done for .410s over the last 5 years.
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3 minutes ago, Conor O'Gorman said:
The main cartridge manufacturers will continue to announce new products, not BASC or any other shooting organisation. We are currently in a voluntary transition away from lead shot and single use plastics for live quarry shooting. There are for sure concerns about .410 and other small gauges in the event that we have a cliff edge of a sudden ban on lead shot, given the limited options for alternatives. BASC has made those concerns clear in its submissions to the Health and Safety Executive's various consultations on proposals to restrict some uses of lead shot. However, currently, we have a voluntary transition with new products coming on stream regularly driven by market demand.
You've not really answered my questions but just repeated what I already know. BASC does speak to the cartridge manufacturers does it not, if so has BASC raised anything about .410s with them? If not could you talk to them and then can come you back to us with an update?
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10 minutes ago, Dave at kelton said:
Try and see Bill Harrimans experiment with a muzzle loader. No damage if I recall it correctly.
I have and I'm currently doing the same and putting copper coated steel through a cheap muzzle loader. I've not had any problems so far but speed and pressure I expect are less that a shotgun.
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Does anyone know of or have examples of shooting steel shot fibre wad loads? I.e. if you loaded up your own steel shot cartridges and just used a plain fibre wad so there was nothing to protect the barrel. If shot size, pressures and speeds were kept low would their be much damage and how long would the barrel last?
Just a bit of an idle thought as looking at some of the cheaper pumps a new barrel would cost £100 so wondering if a rebarrel would be cheaper than shooting something expensive.
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19 hours ago, Conor O'Gorman said:
Thanks. I guess we all have a budget for our recreational shooting expenditure - whether it's the quarry we are harvesting, where we shoot, or what we shoot with. There are fuel costs, the food, the accommodation, etc. Ammunition is part of the cost. The evidence is clear that the lead shot we shoot into the open countryside (outside shooting ranges where the risks can be controlled) is available to many species of birds to pick up as grit with resulting direct or indirect mortality. The voluntary transition is a choice for all of us to consider - continue as we are or start to change - are we conservationists or not?
I dont know if it's intentional but this answer, and one in the current BASC magazine, comes across as rather dismissive of concerns about the .410.
We're 5 years into a voluntary 5 year transition away from lead and nothing seems to have been done to increase lead free alternatives in the .410, if anything there's less available now that 5 years ago. So the choice is 30p for a lead cartridge or about £1.50 for Bismuth. I doubt many people would have moved away from lead in 12g if the only option was bismuth.
Can BASC give an update on progress with the main cartridge manufacturers? Do any of them plan to offer anything other than bismuth as a lead free .410 offering? When are the component manufacturers going to start offering any wads suitable for lead free loads and dare I say for them to offer a .410 biodegradable wad?
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1 hour ago, SukhaSD said:
Thanks all for the advice thus far. I will definitely look into buying myself a reloading manual ASAP. Aside from the recommended Lee book, are there any other recommendations? For the foreseeable future, all I'll be reloading is .38/.357 Mag, with 6.5 CREEDMOOR coming further down the line.
I'm using the Lee 3 die set, for which the Bullet Seating Die also doubles as the Crimping Die. Will that suffice? I can certainly looki at adjusting the die for a more desired crimp.
The .38 loads will be shot solely out of my Marlin 1894 CST, 16.5" barrel.
My concerns/queries are as below:
- Have the bullets been seated too far into the case (from the reference pictures)?
- Is the OAL range of 1.4475 inches to 1.4425 between the rounds from the reference picture too low? What would be an ideal OAL range (Min-Max) to not stray from, for .38 SPL specifically?
Any other tips would be greatly appreciated, and as already mentioned I will be looking to get myself a reloading manual very soon.
I assume that's a .38/357? If so you should not have any problem with cartridge length chambering them and I wouldn't worry about shooting those rounds through my Marlin.
Taking a step back, are you shooting at a club? If so isn't there anyone there who can help, it's good to be able to chat to other people shooting the same sort of things. Most people I know will only shoot .357 rounds through a 357/38 gun to stop the sooty ring that can form when shooting 38s in a longer 357 chamber. The downside of that is you tend to have to use 38 data.
As I mentioned, TC bullets in the UK seem to have a crimp grove that will always produce a round that's too long unless you trim the cases back a few thou. This is where it's useful to speak to people running the same sort of loads as you can cross reference your loads with them. I dont run max or min loads so don't worry about the slight difference in case capacity and if I did I'd run the loads through reloading software.
The Lee seating die will crimp your cases ok but I prefer to seat then crimp with the carbide die.
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10 hours ago, Andy H said:
Use any data that uses an 158 grain lead head it does not have to specify a truncated cone a semi wadcutter will do or even round nose , It's all in the weight .
You are well below maximum powder load's for n320 .8 of a grain below for a 158 swc.
https://www.vihtavuori.com/reloading-data/handgun-reloading/?cartridge=41
I would use the LSWC data as thats plain lead, the H&N SWC data is for plated bullets I think. So max 3.8gr. But thats pistol data and I wouldn't worry about using 4.2gr in a rifle. I do have old Viht data that lists max 4.6.
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9 hours ago, SukhaSD said:
I’ve just started reloading and have a few questions:
What questions do you have?
I've loaded and shot many thousand 158gr TCs with Viht N320 without any problems. I used 357 brass, 4.0gr Viht N320 .358" GM 158gr TCs with fed small pistol primers and got a pleasant 950 fps out of a U/L rifle.
There is load data out there, you may need to trawl through some European sites. https://www.wm-bullets.de/nützliches/ladedaten for example lists data for SWC and TC and you will note it is the same. As said I just use data for a certain weight of lead bullet, not shape.
You could also use reloading software such as Gordons reloading tool.
Your OAL is a bit long, that may not matter but it will depend what you are shooting them in. I find TC bullets need the cases trimmed down to get them to crimp in the right place. I give mine a light crimp using a Lee carbide die which also makes sure there are no slight bulges in the case.
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I don't know about the escort but I know a few people with box fed shotguns and they've all had to mod and tune them. Often the mags need a bit of shaping or different ones bought. I also wonder if it's down to how the gun is being held, is it firmly in the shoulder? When people get jams with semi 22s it can often be down to them not holding the gun properly.
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9 hours ago, martinj said:
could be the old choppers just aren't what they used to be?
i would have thought it would be the other way around, good or clean teeth might make things more squeaky so perhaps a new tooth paste is being used?
It could also be down to hearing, I've always been able to hear those ultrasonic animal scarers where most people can't.
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I definitely have to open mine and close it rather than just press a lever and the gun opens, i.e. it is a bit stiffer and clunky than my other shotguns.
It should be easy enough to find one to try but it sounds like it wouldn't be suitable.
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45 minutes ago, islandgun said:
Anyone else noticed or is just my age.....or teeth
I know what you mean. I occasionally get squeaks when eating things like runner or french beans but it tends to be fresh ones we grown ourselves and lightly cooked so not a bad sign. If you over cook veg then it doesn't squeak.
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I don't think it is unusual for people to hear noises and others or sound meters not pick something up. There could be all sorts or reasons, your local airport for example do they run generators or fuel pumps? I've even heard of house roofs producing low frequency noise when the wind blows in a certain direction so it would be worth keeping a diary of when the noise is loudest and what the weather is like (wind speed, direction, general weather etc).
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1 hour ago, Old farrier said:
Posted by email to members 5 minutes ago
It was in the weekly BASC email today, which is sent out every 7 days....
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9 hours ago, flippermaj said:
Yes they are eating it along with a small patch off set side that had some sort of seed mix in. If it is a fodder radish of some sort I don’t think it is for stock to eat as it is a big field and this is basically an arable farm so no stock. I think it was undersown with the last barley crop. I guess it will be ploughed in.
Undersown radish makes sense, it's used to scavenge excess nitrogen and to improve the soil. As you say, it'll be ploughed in.
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Possibly a fodder radish of some sort.
ShootHub Podcast - lead shot latest with BASC's Terry Behan
in General Shooting Matters
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Thanks. I am interested in birds picking up lead shot as grit. I've kept free ranging poultry and have had concerns about them picking up lead from my pest control activities. However, after several years observing then they mainly seem to pick up grit from the grit I supply with their food, so I wonder how real the threat is to wild birds. I.e. could it be reduced if clean grit is supplied? If there is a genuine problem then does that not mean areas where large amounts of game are shot need to also decontaminate their land?