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It was just a loose screw, but possibly it is the case for many kits like this because they use rail systems with screws that tightened by hand for such release unlike normal scope mounts that are tightened by hex keys. Lesson learned: always properly check all screws before going shooting.

Wow! That is an interesting setup. I shoot rats in not a large garden so, only air rifle is suitable. But for larger farm yards it can be very well suited. Rats are horrible creatures and needs to be taken care of for sure.

Ok, I did not shoot it yet, but I tried to simply make loose one screw and it falls a little bit. But when I touched the second one it goes exactly to where it was shooting back then. And the second screw feels falsely tight. So, it was all me being completely stupid. Oh, well... Always learn something new. Thank you very much jall25 and everybody else who took time to answer my desperate call. Great community who is always ready to help! By the way, I am also interested in the setup of shotgun with thermal for rats. I have never heard using shotgun for rats, let alone shotgun with thermal unit.

What do you mean? That is very interesting idea, thanks. So, you think scope mount just got loose? Actually, in a hindsight I remember one of the two screws holding the scope on rail was a bit loose. But I would expect it to give inconsistent aim point, which was not the case. I will try intentionally to make it loose and see whether it has this effect.

I will try to play around with turning on and off, taking battery out and in again, etc... But I set exact position (with certain number of "clicks" left/right or top/bottom. I even tried to re-zero on different zoom and then get back to original zoom and just set the previous numbers back and voila back on zero... I will play around and report back if I find something, but I feel it is gun rather than scope.

Thanks for the idea but no, exactly the same pellets from original tin which I used for zero and then for shooting. I keep different types of pellets very careful apart. It is digital scope, it has effectively a screen that you are looking at (even through an eye piece). It cannot move the point of aim. It was very consistent before and at least seems like consistent afterwards. Moreover, when the point of aim moved it was still consistent enough to zero it successfully.

Hello, everyone! I have got a bit of a problem with my air rifle Webley Axsor .22 (sub 12 ft lb). I shoot it with Henbaker CY789 day/night digital scope. The situation was as following. I zeroed the rifle with the scope at the local shooting range. Zeroed out at 10 and 30 metres (with a bit of hold under It was shooting very stable and consistent and always getting exactly where I was aiming it with very good groups even at 40-50 metres distance (obviously with certain holding over). Since then I shot a couple of rats (at short distance) and everything worked great. A couple of days ago, I was invited to shoot some rabbits on a farm. I decided to check zero of the rifle. To my total surprise, the gun was shooting about 6-7 inches right and down (it was very quiet evening, so, cannot be only wind). It was relatively cold evening and the dew started to fall on the grass I believe. I re-zeroed it, seems everything alright. Went out into the field. At some point for close enough to a rabbit (about 30 metres, exactly my zero), made a shot and the pellet went the same 6-7 inches up and left (pretty much where my original zero was). After that I tried to shoot at some bump in the ground and it kept shooting the same 6-7 inches up and left. So, original zero returned. I had to stop and return as it is plainly wrong to shoot a live quarry without well zeroed rifle and it was too late and dark to re-zero it again. I am puzzled at what this could actually be? Dew inside a barrel? I took a rifle from a case in the car 5 minutes before I went to check zero. Or there is some other reason for that that anybody can think of? The bigger question is how do I avoid this situation in the future? I would appreciate any thoughts on this issue. Thanks. Best wishes, Vit

For some reason, approval of my messages takes ages... OK, it seems, I am not the only one in this and it is (as expected) common problem. It is interesting that the opinions split between two options. I guess, I would go with a mix. Luckily, my local ground has several hire guns, which I can borrow and try. I will go with this option for several visits and try to shoot simple stable targets, but with tight chokes (as @enfieldspares suggested). I do not know why I did not think of it before, but I have a pcp air rifle and I can practice mounting it at home. It is different from shotgun in many ways, but one thing is common is how and where on the face and shoulder you mount a gun. I was almost always used it from bipod/tripod and a lot with night kit with a screen, so, I did not properly mount it before. So, the last couple of days I actually got to know my air rifle so much better. So, home practice (with what I have) to get more consistent mount and stock feel, a couple of sessions with hire guns at shooting ground and then buying a second-hand gun for further practice. Again, many-many thanks to everybody who took their time and actually gave fantastic suggestions and ideas for practice. If any of you local (Bedfordshire), I would love to meet at a shooting ground and have a round (I do not expect any tuition or help, just to meet more like minded people).

Thank you very much for such a detailed plan of action. I had English Skeet in mind actually myself. And my shooting ground has one (if not two) layouts for skeet, so, I should be OK.

That is a good compromise

I am from near Bedford. I know several shooting people, but they are way too far away and I do not know anybody here.

Hello! I used to shoot semi-auto more than 10 years ago (in different country) and since then did not shoot anything. So, I loose any muscle memory in mounting/moving with a shotgun. I am now looking to buy an Over/Under shotgun. I have been to a local gun shop last week and tried about 15-20 guns. Some felt better than the others (overall, brownings and browning-like guns felt better than beretta and beretta-like ones), but the problem is that my mount is inconsistent, I find that I can mount a gun 5 times and get a good picture and good feel, then mount it 5 more times and get horrible feeling from it. So, after more than an hour I was not sure what actually fits and what not. So, I am in a vicious circle... I cannot properly check the gun fit without consistent mount, but to get the consistent mount I need to train mounting (at least at home with a mirror) and for this I need to buy a gun (ideally, which will fit me at least relatively well). I can see two (not necessarily mutually excluding) options: Go to a local shooting ground and hire a gun from them (try different ones over several days/weeks) and see how they will behave in action. It will contribute to mounting consistency and muscle memory, but will not be enough to get good consistent mount. Buy relatively cheap gun which feels OKish now, train with it at home in front of a mirror to get a consistent mount, then, decide whether it fits me well and either leave it or sell it and find one that properly fits me. I would assume, it must be a common problem for people, who did not start shooting from early age, so, there should be some recommendations, but I failed to find any. What do you think about the options that I listed above? Do you have any other ideas for what can be done to break the vicious circle? Thank you very much in advance.

Location, please!

It is actually relatively close to me, but it sounds a bit fishy... And the prices are a bit low (ish), e.g. Browning 525 in good condition with original box, fitted adjustable stock extender and extended chokes (as stated) for £550 is a bit below the market, isn't it?

It may sound strange, but I am looking for a Baikal shotgun. Let me be more specific... I am looking for one (or both) of the following (both in 12 gauge only): - Baikal over and under with 3" chambers and multi chokes, single trigger and ejectors. It is most probably would be either newer 27 model (MP-27EM-M-1C) or its successor MP-233EA (or other modifications). - Baikal semi-auto MP-153 (it is normally has 3.5" chamber and multi chokes) If it has a fleur-de-lis (steel shot proof), that would be a large advantage. As far as I know MP-153 all proofed for steel, MP-27/233 can be, but not all of them are. I am located in Bedfordshire and would be willing to come anywhere in Bedfordshire or neighbouring counties (Herts, Cambs, Northants, Bucks, possibly, Oxfordshire) to have a look and buy a shotgun. I obviously need to have a look at the gun before buying it. I would really appreciate both direct offers (private and trades) or any information about availability of these models in the area specified. Thank you very much in advance for any help.