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  1. 9 hours ago, clangerman said:

    we? let’s have it correct game shooting wasted the birds or there wouldn’t even be a video 

    Yes, a royal we. We all have a duty to show fieldsports in the best light whether that be via social media postings or even talking at the pub with mates.

    Also, you've no idea who wasted the birds. They could have been taken off the game cart by a beater after the keeper said 'help yourself to some birds', as is customary following a day's beating. They could have been purchased for that purpose. They could be the result of a failed chiller and not fit for human consumption.

    1 hour ago, Rim Fire said:

    was this aimed at me 

    No, at the creator of the video.

  2. 3 hours ago, Dougy said:

    But he still posted on YT. 

    I'm no mike tyson but I would tell him face to face that he needs to activate his brain cells.

    I really thought this post had been removed. Does more against shooting than any mention of felines. 

    Same here.

    I'm all for fieldsports based content but sometimes we need to think about what those who oppose fieldsports could make of the content we provide, even if it's edited or taken out of content.

    Hopefully the creator will think before he posts in the future.

  3. Still tied in braces ***. He could have at least done what others do with left over shot birds and cut them up and put them into a stink tube or bucket. 

    I'm not sure you could do much more damage with a 15 second video if you filmed yourself running hounds across the grounds of Richmond park. 

  4. 4 hours ago, Robden said:

    What a stupid question.  Surely that would apply to most shooters if their SGCs were revoked.

    True. In most cases it would separate people from their friendship groups and perhaps the only real interaction they have with people. A revocation would mean complete isolation for a lot of the older people I shoot with who have lost family, friends, wifes, husbands etc to age. 

    I certainly spend more time with my 'shooting' mates than I do with people who I consider to be my best friends. I shoot several times a week but I may only see my 'mates' every few weeks due to kids, work etc. 

    1 hour ago, HantsRob said:

    Plymouth*. 

    (sorry, a little county-proud)

    Thanks. Not the first time I've had the two mixed up. 

  5. 4 minutes ago, agcd said:

    Yeah exactly, really frustrating for this reason. It feels like I'm being penalised for seeking help in a way.

    Been very open the whole time and the diagnosis was ongoing while they were reviewing my application. I only wanted to trial the medication to see if it helped my symptoms but as you say, I've got this far in life without it!

    But then if they have said it is the medication not the condition causing the refusal (in writing), how could they refuse I stopped the medication? (With support/approval from the Specialist)

    This is a symptom of the whole Jake Davison/ Southampton incident. As the police aren't an expert in the field of ADHD and associated medications they have to side with caution rather than take the risk. 

    As the medication is optional then (IMO only) I wouldn't take it stating that the potential side effects are undesirable and discuss that with your FEO. State that you were exploring the possibilities of the medication providing an increase to your quality of life and since the potential side effects outweigh the potential benefits you have decided against it. If your specialist is exactly that and not one just trying to sell a medication then they should also support you in that and be happy to adjust their recommendation to the FEO accordingly. 

    ADHD is not depression or any other sort of mental illness which would preclude you from having a certificate. Its the potential depression side effect that the police are worried about. 

    Though you do now have the added complication that the FEO has made a decision and will take some persuasion to change that and they'll likely stick to the 'give it a few years and try again' line regardless. 

  6. If you're only taking the medication to help focus while at work could you simply not take the medication? I know I wouldn't be taking a medication with potential side effects to help further satisfy an employer (unless that employer is yourself of course). 

    Ultimately there are 10's of thousands if not 100's of thousands of people in the UK who have undiagnosed ADHD and are unaware. Some of those will be perfectly functioning firearms holders. 

  7. 11 minutes ago, Westley said:

    I got stuck in the hand with a hyperdermic needle.

    What came of the offender? 

    To attack someone else with a hyperdermic needle should be no less than an attempted murder charge regardless of the end result. 

    There is a rising scum class in the UK who care for no one, are afraid of nothing and have nothing to lose. They are effectively living in a lawless society as in most cases, a prison sentence is much preferable to their current position. They are fit only to be made into dog food or fertiliser. 

  8. There are also plenty of self-contained domestic fire suppression systems on the market that can be installed anywhere there is a specific risk of fire such as electrical cupboards, behind TV/ Media walls etc. Most are self contained chemical release mechanisms that work by releasing an extinguishing agent when exposed to heat above a certain temperature. 

    Google fire extinguishing balls for more info. 

  9. 5 minutes ago, Sweet11-87 said:

    not to start an argument but £274/1000  for 28g fibre selects is just the going rate.  also gamebore 50th were/are about 280 a 1000 the entire time they were available. why are they at nearly £300 as a "bin end"?

    maybe its cheaper up here in the north but the entire JC catalogue seems to be about 5%-10% above the goin rate at most dealers. Appreciate that you stock allot of products that are a bit specialist and are hard to come by in some places but id of though the economy of scale buying and selling factor would be in your favor. any reason why you are across the board a bit more expensive?

    Same here. The bins ends sale makes JC just about competitive with a local RFD with the £15 delivery charge being about worth it considering I'd need to sacrifice a Saturday afternoon and about £10 worth of fuel to make the trip. 

    Near £290/1000 for full fat superfasts is awful but cheaper than buying at grounds like Barbury or Ian Coleys.. They were an expensive option at £235 around 2 1/2 - 3 years ago when I started shooting. 

    @Just Cartridges Any idea why Fiocchi (and Lyalvale) have turned from one of the most budget friendly yet competition ready cartridges to well over £300/1000 for their intermediate competition F-Black/ Power Blue/ Power Gold cartridges? 

    We've been buying F Blacks locally for £272/1000 28G fibres for the last 8-10 months and then, without warning, they've shot up to near £310-£315. 

    Also, Is this bin ends sale an ongoing thing or a one-off ending March 10th? 

  10. 15 minutes ago, discobob said:

    And then you have the bans that are currently being introduced in Wales, no dogs on [quite a number of] beaches, even in our local park they have been banned

    And if you local boarding service goes under, you will have a lot of people who will choose perhaps to no go away etc...

    Tin-foil hat time - I have heard that certain globalists want pets to be gotten rid off - like they want rid of farmers, cars,.....and on and on

    What will happen is many small businesses will close because they can no longer operate without a license and having a license involves a whole load more cost and complication. Some will throw in the towel there and then but for those who preserver the issues will then be that the 4x4 wooden workshop in their back garden is no longer able to house their business because of petty stipulations with the licensing such as a requirement to have disabled customer access, customer WC facilities etc. They then either have to move to a commercial premises or spend enormous amounts making their existing location meet the requirements of the licensing. Once they have relocated themselves to a suitable premises they then have to face the sheer cost of running a commercial business like rent, rates, taxes and levys. They then also have to navigate having to employ a whole host of third parties to tackle issues such as fire safety, accounts etc. The business then has to employ more people to do the actual grooming because the owner is knee deep in the bureaucracy brought forward by being a licensed commercial operation, adding further cost. When a simple wash and blow dry for a small Pekinese now costs £125 rather than the £25 it used to cost then people will start going to nationwide operations like the PAH groom room that are setup to operate in scale and have significant off site back of house functions and minimum wage staff which enables them to compete. 

    All you are then left with is a few nationwide operations to chose from because all of the small business you used to rely on have been regulated out of existence. 

     

    21 minutes ago, discobob said:

    Tin-foil hat time - I have heard that certain globalists want pets to be gotten rid off - like they want rid of farmers, cars,.....and on and on

    It's the boiling frog effect. In 15 years we'll look back and wonder *** happened and why I need to apply for a specific license to walk on the shaded side of the street rather than the sunny side or some other ridiculous nonsense. 

    It seems a bit tin foil hat but there does seem to be slow but constant crawl to restrict, license or monitor all aspects of our lives by government. 10 years ago I'd have told myself to give my head a wobble for saying something like that but now I'm not so sure. 

  11. It's general cover-all guidance but is reliant on self regulation. Self regulation has never been the strong point of commercially operating enterprises. I'm dead set against all forms of regulation and licensing as a whole but in this case it seems that those who are causing the most damage are those who are least restricted and monitored. 

    It wouldn't be a bad thing for these one man band duck flighting operations to start signing up to a voluntary BASC accreditation scheme where their bags can be monitored and the beneficial work they claim to do to their lands can be verified. Much in the same way wildfowling clubs align themselves with BASC. 

    Otherwise its just a lad with a quad throwing sacks of feed into a ditch and charging people £85 a evening to shoot anything that comes within range. It's not a good look for the sport. 

    At least the bigger commercial pheasant and driven duck shoots are rearing and releasing their own game and can partially justify big bags rather than placing a huge burden on the wild populations of birds. 

  12. 6 minutes ago, old man said:

    Just an illustration of fine things to come maybe?

    Welsh Gov should not be underestimated. They view all things involving animals as cruel and something to be restricted and banned. They have a nye on vegan approach to how they view animal based businesses. Any animal based displays or events will be heavily restricted or banned. The document even makes reference to Alpaca walking FGS. 

    This is heavily backed by the average Facebook, middle aged woman types who will look at a picture of an ex-racing Greyhound with an amputated leg and immediately pledge 100% of their support to these causes without looking at the wider proposal. This very proposal is advertised on the banning of Greyhound racing but as you can see from the consultation document the banning of Greyhound racing is just a very small part appended onto the end of the proposal. 

    If I ran a home based pet grooming or boarding service for example I would be very concerned that licensing would force relocation to a commercial premises that will meet the ridiculous standard that licensing will no doubt require. For most this will mean closure as the business they have developed from their home or small holding will just not work with the added cost of a commercial premises and the added complication that comes with it. 

  13. 24 minutes ago, muncher said:

    First question, what about punt gunners ? Second thing , do you Believe land owners or inland shooters will fill in bag returns, never going to happen, or a best very minimal. This will only lead to more restrictions. Yea it looks good on paper but just dig a bit deeper and think about what they are implying. The other thing to consider is, only 1% of wildfowl is taken on the foreshore. 99% inland. 

    That's a very valid point. What's the use in restricting bag numbers on the foreshore only for people to be running commercial enterprises a few miles inland feeding wild birds with unlimited bag numbers? 

    I've grown very sick this year of some common users of the Giving up the Game' facebook page who are posting large bags of teal, widgeon etc for give away because paying clients have shot them and aren't interested in taking them home for the pot. How sustainable is that considering near the whole bag is made up of wild birds? 

  14. The Welsh government has now released a consultation on the licensing and phased ban of greyhound racing in Wales.

    Please bare in mind that this is a part of the wider Animal Welfare for Wales Plan 2021 - 2026 which also related to the licensing of game bird release in Wales and therefore must be rejected in all of its forms.

    It also has wider reaching potential effects for people who's livelihood relies on services to or for animals in Wales.

    A link to the consultation can be found below.

    Its as easy as a simple X in the No box for all questions.

    https://www.gov.wales/licensing-animal-welfare-establishments-activities-and-exhibits?fbclid=IwAR2qcsuZgHPz3ikt0CRfHWKAV2LN9HnhpqDwGdGivCfCHWahq3hJyk5tf-U

  15. It's highly likely that she hasn't a clue what the songs mean and what connotations may be attached to it. It's likely that she was either asked to perform it or she's seen it in an Instagram short or a tik tok video and thought that was the done thing at these events. 

    Like most has-beens she'll do anything and appear anywhere as long as there is a fee attached to it. It's also likely that she couldn't give a toss about Israel and Palestine and couldn't point them out on a map of the middle east.  

    I am very surprised that there is a significant Palestinian population in Caerphilly (a relatively small town north of Cardiff) that could fill a village hall. It's most likely a group of virtue signaling labor supporters and students with dyed blue hair, smelly armpits and pubic hair sticking out their shorts who want to show their twitter followers just how left wing they are by supporting todays most popular cause. The same type who aggressively lobby the Senedd every time someone mentions the Badger cull on the news or glue themselves to the road chanting just stop oil. 

  16. On 25/02/2024 at 07:31, TIGHTCHOKE said:

     

    I went for the Le Chemeau on the advise of that thread and did not regret it. 

    They have been used near enough every day October to April through the 22/23 season and have been used almost every day since Oct 2023 clay shooting, beating and dog walking and with a good clean they would be as new. 

    I would 100% recommend Le Chemeau as a quality item over the cheaper sub £85 options out there. 

  17. 4 minutes ago, Scully said:

    I haven’t watched the film.
    Some mates and I ( I was the ferret man ) used to use ferrets to bolt rabbits to raptors many moons ago. 
    Had some fabulous days out! 👍

    The practice of using raptors to pursue and kill game either for sport or to hunt food goes back centuries, and still goes on today all over the world.
    Indigenous people in some parts of Mongolia for example, still hunt like this. By its very nature it has to be one of the most sustainable ways there is to hunt for food. 
    The affluent West however has become so comfortably insulated from the realities of life and separated from the fact that if they eat meat then something has to die, that tolerance for this type of thing would be very short lived. 
    The bird is just doing what they do; driven by millennia of evolution and instinct. All it would take for us to do likewise ( vegans included ) is two or three weeks without electricity and empty supermarket shelves. 🤷‍♂️

    How would you have stopped a BOP going after a ferret that had surfaced? I appreciate the answer maybe not to slip the jesses (possibly incorrect terminology?) when a ferret is above ground but I'm sure you'll have encountered a situation in which both a rabbit bolts and ferret is above ground unbeknown to the BOP handler. 

    BOPs don't strike me as having the ability to discern between prey animals and fellow working animals and any furry creature on the ground is fair game to them. 

  18. 10 minutes ago, HantsRob said:

    I am NOT a rifle shooter.

    Is there any reason you wouldn't use a moderator? 

    I am wondering if there would be a need to change it to be a necessity as a condition of a licence holder, but but without licence control?

    Some antique and competition rifles and target shooting disciplines use iron sights only which aren't really useable with a huge can stuck on the front of the barrel. 

    When passed, how long before every PCC in the land starts boasting about how they cut firearms numbers by a third (approx the amount of mods vs actual firearms) during their term?  

  19. Loosing power and control of the people I would imagine. The various ideologies, socialism, marxism, communism etc are just vehicles on which this control is based. 

    The west currently has Net Zero and climate change as its vehicle of control and retention of power over the population. Just look at the whole mess that is the centralisation of food production that is being driven by various powers under the veil of Net Zero and reduction of over farming output across the EU as 'cow farts cause climate change'. The theory being that food is commodity that a population cannot survive without and if you control the food then you control the population. Bill Gates isn't the USA's largest owner of farmland because he's a fan of Clarksons farm.. 

    (Perhaps I need to take a break from Joe Rogan podcasts 😆

    I'm also not a climate change denier.. 

  20. 6 minutes ago, ditchman said:

    shame...............if he was out of prison and won the election......he wouldnt have lasted long anyway

    He never would have won. What's that Joseph Stalin quote? "It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes."

    Despite what they may claim, Russia are in the grips of a dictatorship which will never change as when Putin dies, the next one takes over. 

  21. 12 hours ago, Scully said:

    I took hold of the dog at which point she shook off the ferret, and while I kept hold of her I saw Diesel with a tail like a toilet brush! There was no way I was picking him up with a tail like that so told my nephew to pick him up, and not knowing any better he did so! 😳

    My left index finger knuckle is covered completely by scar tissue from making a similar mistake. 

    I was ferreting with a mate who had a small hob was a brilliant working animal but could not be handled without welding gloves once it had gotten the scent of rabbit in it's nose. It emerged from a hole on the side of a warren I was covering, he told me not to pick it up and he would jump over to and get it himself, I didn't listen and it latched on the skin covering my knuckle and damn near tore it completely off. Little ******.. 😆Once it had that toilet brush tail it was an evil little ***. 

    I've also made sure that any of my ferrets were well handled and I was able to pick them up no matter what. It makes ferreting much easier when you can pick them up not having to worry for your fingers. 

  22. Great write up! 

    I had ferrets as a kid well before I had firearms. I do miss them and think that using the ferrets to flush rabbits to a waiting gun would be a quite enjoyable rather than just netting them. 

    I don't miss the lingering smell of rabbit innards on thrice washed hands though!  

  23. 37 minutes ago, London Best said:

    Not heard of that conversation before, but I am not surprised.

    Estimating distance is not so hard on the ground (although many struggle) but it is ridiculously hard to estimate heights and nearly impossible to estimate the height of a flying bird accurately.

    Another good measure for anyone who's ever been Dublin is the spire of Dublin. A steel spire which extends 120m into air but when stood at the base looks to be at least 300m. I stood back a way and split it in half and even 60m seems like it would be an extremely long shot. I would say that most 'good' shots are 40m at most.

    8 hours ago, Mable said:

    I hear Lyalvale have introduced a 12 bore 16 gram cartridge?

    Anyone else heard this,  or better still used them?

    Price?

     

    I've tried them. They were about as good as any 21g lead cartridge and broke a good side on long going away and a big battue target without a problem. No recoil whatsoever, if it wasn't for the bang you'd think you had a misfire. Probably no good in a semi auto or an older inertia triggered gun.

    I was gifted a box but cost is (was in November) around £245 a thousand. If they are still at that price then a good deal for a club shooter.

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