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  1. 3 hours ago, Conor O'Gorman said:

    Shooting estates have been supplying small game to market for around 150 years. It's nothing new. Just because someone else enjoys a different shooting experience to your own does not perhaps give you the moral high ground. Perhaps consider that some people in your local community believe that you are part of the problem going out there shooting birds to eat them when you could have just popped into your local Tesco to feed yourself. 

    Old Farrier there is all the proof you need that this whole lead ban BS is entirely about supporting the unpalatable commercial Game Shoots.

  2. 44 minutes ago, mossy835 said:

    just had a phone call from two farmers say that the farms have been soid for building on, the farms were right next to each other witch i have shot on for over 35 years,nice bit of shooting on as well.one had a pond where i loved sitting in and shooting the pigeons as they went over or sitting in the trees. i will miss them both.loved riding the quad bike round with the grankids when the corn was cut.well i have  10 more farms i can shoot on,building is taking over,our land,

    Lost over half of the 6 neighbouring farms the shoot has shot over for 53 years to much the same, the countryside is shrinking at an alarming rate.  Every barn now converted and spreading with outbuildings and wind turbines, holiday Chalets, Caravan parks the list goes on. 

  3. 4 hours ago, oowee said:

    Cracking trip all around. Good to see all of the family involved. Well done to the boys. 

    I am over with Evert on Sunday for ten days. Africa is addictive and I think this is our 8th year on the trot. Not for the feint of heart, but if you get chance i would recommend close up baboons. Not with the family. 

    My daughter is also going over in July for a special tour with Evert. 

    ......

  4. 32 minutes ago, oowee said:

    I share the concern for different reasons. We have a concerted effort by Putin and Jinping to undermine the success of the west. A continuous war of false narrative is being used to exploit our freedom of speech. Creating fear amongst the population, unable to discern reality. As a result we have the rise of extremism. It starts with a desire for nationalism, a desire to retreat to the golden times of the past. A restriction of civil liberties, then exiting of the very institutions that protect our freedom.  State control of the media and state control of the law. 

    Look at the mess the US is in with the rise of MAGA and the marginalisation of conservative values. A country that could have had a convicted rapist as president operating from prison.  Contrast that with the desire to push out the conservative agenda in the UK and replace it with a right wing narrative as a reaction to media falsehoods.

    We don't have a Conservative agenda from Labour or the Tories, just Woke left wing garbage policies that are destroying the country.

  5. 2 hours ago, Conor O'Gorman said:

    That's great that you tried to get grey partridge back onto your land. It sounds like you had everything in place just not enough breeding success - which is measured by chick survival rate. Everything that reduces that rate below a certain figure (namely rainfall levels at the wrong time and the right insects at the right density at the right time) means that the population goes extinct over time.  If you are still keen on trying again the GWCT and their local groups will be a great help. The key issue is the source of birds - they need to be ones that still have the ability in the wild not only to pick good nesting sites, but to lay eggs and hatch off the chicks, and to know what to do next - both parents help out here. Happy to have a chat on the phone about all this if of interest.

    Maybe he should of interviewed his breeding stock before employing them to weed out those who weren't up to the job? 

  6. 34 minutes ago, Old farrier said:

    Awesome 👏 

    back to English partridge 

    I quite like them as there are virtually none in my area 

    I made enquiries regarding the possibility of reintroducing them to my area with positive responses 

    dually sourced eggs and incubated and hatched 200 chicks

    made pens and with landowners permission and encouragement we slowly released them into suitable areas around the 2000 acres of his farm appropriate covers suitable crops with high feed value and supplementary feeding stations we also drilled the corn with a wider setting on the rows and straight line planting no zig zags 

    I mowed the south facing slopes of the grass down land ten meter wide strips every ten metres across it ( contour mowing) to leave long grass for nesting and cover for any birds short grass for chicks if any 

    I installed a massive amount of tunnel traps to keep rats and other predators at bay along with strong fox control measures 

    we did this for 3 years total reared and released 600 

    none were shot in this period of time 

    most-fell to predators the biggest culprit was the peregrine falcon as the English partridge is a little smaller than the red leg that’s to heavy for the peregrine to take 

    five years on there’s probably five left 

    pretty sure none died from ingesting lead shot 

     

    Great effort 👍

  7. 7 minutes ago, steve_b_wales said:

    What is the word that's used when a rat or rats are wary of something new (a trap etc)

    Neophobia.

  8. 23 minutes ago, Sweet11-87 said:

    Bit strong mate,  agreed he’s worded a few of his post different to what I’d of done but if he calls it a day on pigeon watch what’s achieved? 
     

    he’s butted heads with a few people on here and resolved it in a phone call.
     

    I’ve not seen anyone else from basc rock up to get involved.  Atleast he’s willing to comment. 

    The B in BASC stands for betrayal.

  9. 1 minute ago, ditchman said:

    it is highly unlikley any of the drones will reach their target...........BUT if one does...it will give Israel carte blanche to relatiate in their own time and to choose the leathality of the response............

    Iran has a few low grade "dirty" missiles /war heads and my worry is they will use the drones as a blind to launch a limited dirty strike on Israel.............if that happens...

    watch the skylight up as the nuc's drop it on their targets

    total madness

    RELIGION STINKS it always has been the cause of most of the deaths in this world......

    I would imagine the Drones are to use up Air Defences and then the Cruise Missiles start.

  10. 3 hours ago, Gordon R said:

    Are we sure it is irrelevant?

    Absolutely relevant given his stance on Lead and influence with BASC. 

    1 hour ago, Conor O'Gorman said:

    It was not Konor it was someone else. It was not BASC it was nine organisations. The text I have provided to Scully is copy and pasted from the joint announcement made 4 years ago by nine organisations. I realise that the facts are challenging for some forum members who just won't see the facts for what they are and rather looking for conspiracies that do not exist because they have never read anything on the topic other than each other's misinformed posts. It is incredible really. Would you agree?

    It is incredible how Patronising you are.  The 'facts' you present as set in stone are simply not proven facts just rhetoric for an agenda.  The results of scientific reports depend entirely on who is funding them.  The irony is you and other Org's supporting this idiocy will probably put yourselves out of business, every cloud and all that.

  11. 36 minutes ago, Conor O'Gorman said:


    At the end of the day the inescapable fact is that the voluntary transition away from lead shot and single use plastics for live quarry shooting was not, and is not, a 'lead ban'. This has been explained dozens of times on this forum and anyone that continues to tout those views in this thread is guilty of deliberately spreading misinformation. 

    Also, the HSE review of lead in ammunition began a year after the voluntary transition announcement, not before, and was because of the Brexit deal and nothing to do with the voluntary transition. This has been explained dozens of times on this forum and anyone that continues to tout those views in this thread is also guilty of deliberately spreading misinformation. 

    As for the various other even more lurid conspiracy theories - what a ridiculous load of nonsense.

    I accept that some posters in this thread seem to read nothing off this forum on policy developments around lead ammunition except each other's misinformed posts, and evidently either do not click on the links I provide to factual updates, or just ignore the factual updates, and also that a certain group think has set in, and that this online cultural environment on this forum dissuades alternative views to be posted for fear of the resulting vitriol.

    Thus, I think that all I can do in the face of the deliberate misinformation and unpleasant vitriol and attempts to derail yet another lead ammunition related thread - is to repost the links for the vast majority of objective viewers to research - accepting that there are a tiny minority of people who are very much personally invested in their misinformation campaign on this forum for various reasons only known to themselves.

    Links as follows:

    The 2020 joint statement on the future of shotgun ammunition for live quarry shooting:

    https://basc.org.uk/a-joint-statement-on-the-future-of-shotgun-ammunition-for-live-quarry-shooting/

    The latest BASC update on the voluntary transition (what was in the OP):

    https://basc.org.uk/moving-forward-for-the-future-of-shooting/

    The latest GWCT update on the voluntary transition

    https://www.gwct.org.uk/blogs/news/2024/march/phasing-out-lead-where-are-we/

     

    I am amazed you have a single member left.  

  12. 2 minutes ago, B686 said:

    Luckily I know a few people I can give them away to. Used to take them to Ben rigby but they don’t take them anymore. They did give me the number of someone in Tiptree who they said takes them but it’s easier to give them away. Will give this person a ring if I get anymore though. 

    Good to see them used, we used to sell to two pubs dressed but they have changed hands and now only buy commercially.  No Game Dealers round here so I have stopped shooting them as I refuse to throw them in a ditch. 

  13. 32 minutes ago, B686 said:

    Pigeons finally found the drilled barley , so took a day off and got over and set up by 11.30 . Put out just my magnet with two dead birds from the freezer pigeons started dropping in straight away stopped shooting by 4.30. Picked up 81 for 107 shots. First time using bioammo blue . Honestly say I didn’t notice the difference from what I would normally use which were clear pigeon 30gm 6 fibre wads . 

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    Have you a Game Dealer to take them?

  14. 4 minutes ago, Conor O'Gorman said:

    Putting the personal comments to one side it is progress that forum members are able to discuss this topic from various viewpoints and there is growing awareness and acceptance that lead shot does pose risks for birds eating it as grit and that this needs to be tackled - and a growing interest in looking into alternatives to lead shot with that in mind.

    With that in mind the following blog post by GWCT's Mike Swan gives an interesting perspective and insight on the voluntary transition.

    https://www.gwct.org.uk/blogs/news/2024/march/phasing-out-lead-where-are-we/

    No growing acceptance that I can see for either of those comments.  All I see is total opposition to the out right betrayal of your and the other Org's members.  I am surprised you and they have any members left 

  15. 3 hours ago, Conor O'Gorman said:

    Yes, there has been 4 years of consultation including on this forum. If you mean were BASC members asked in advance of the announcement of February 2020 by nine organisations about that announcement, no they were not asked in advance, because for BASC's part in that, this was a policy decision taken by BASC's Council -  who are made of BASC members elected by the wider BASC membership to make policy decisions for BASC. 

    How can you consult after the event?  That is like shooting someone then asking them if they wanted to be shot!  I binned BASC after the leaked John Swift minutes and I have now binned the NGO for their support of this idiocy.

  16. 3 minutes ago, Conor O'Gorman said:

    Rather than 'reading between the lines' may I recommend that you take the time to read BASC's response to last year's HSE consultation. BASC's policy is clear in that response - opposing further regulations on all forms of lead ammunition for the various reasons outlined in that response. 

     

     

     

    You won't have to think about it soon, 4000 guns in the Holt's sealed bid auction.  Your lack of opposition to the additional Medical impositions after Plymouth and stance on Lead means people are giving up in their droves.

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