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When you find one Taliban free, I'll book a pup out of her!

I had a diesel Forester & it did 45 to the gallon even when you thrashed it.

There's over 100 litters advertised on the Kronch guys free to advertise gundog site & I'm regularly seeing 8 week+ pups available on facebook. Demand shrinking & over supply, I think there's soon going to be a lot of folk with older pups on their hands & no punters.

Dave Latham won with Drakeshead Deana Pedigree: FTCH Drakeshead Deana (k9data.com) no actual Drakeshead bred dogs in her recent pedigree. RS Hill won with Drakeshead Wisp Pedigree: FTCh Drakeshead Wisp (k9data.com) early days for Drakeshead They've won 5 Championships themselves, with 3 different dogs, all bred by others. All Trial dogs go back to the usual suspects as the gene pool isn't very big.

As I'm a bit sad I've sort of gone through the 1153, I think about 800 were bred by them but mostly 70's 80's, definitely not so many recently. I did notice that the 'of Drakeshead' FTCH outnumbered the Drakeshead home bred ones 20 - 17 from what I could find. They've certainly been prolific.

Whilst I've no plans to trail through the 1153 dogs with Drakeshead in their name that are registered on mykc to prove it, I'd suspect that the majority of them are 'of Drakeshead' or similar, ie they didn't actually breed them. I don't think that they've been prolific breeders of litters, certainly not in recent years & the majority of the dogs that they've won / championed have been bred by others. Standing dogs at stud to a steady stream of customers is probably an easier way to make a living.

I don't think the coi breed average for any of the working breeds is correct for work bred pups, it might be for the breed as a whole but as work bred dogs are now a breed within a breed, their coi breed average is a bit of an unknown. If I was in the market for a proper working bred cocker spaniel I'd expect it's coi to be 16 - 20%. A labrador pup would be in the 8 - 12% region. Never had a springer so I've never looked into them.

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Entropion - eye lids Trichiasis - eye lashes Two different things. Ingrowing eye lashes are most likely hereditary as my old bitch had it & most of her kids / grand kids also have it, it'd be fairly common in Labradors. I see a BVA eye specialist for annual eye tests & on her advise have never done anything about it. I had a cocker which two vets told me had entropion, I took him to the eye specialist & she said the vets were wrong, he had long eye lashes. As someone else has posted, get specialist advice.

I know but there's quite a few that'll have had more.

£350

I was looking at a well used stud for the last year, based on it's fee price on petsforhomes it's earned just over 15k, pups produced will have sold for between 650 & 750k.

yes, I'd have thought so but without seeing the pedigrees it's difficult to say as other dogs in there are probably related as well.

I used to wait until I knew whether I wanted to keep / breed from a dog, I've done them as old as 4. After getting caught out with one not having good enough scores that I an willing to breed from & in the mean time selling one which I'd have kept if I'd know, I now test at 12 months. I've never bought into the wear & tear bit. If they're good 1, they'll be good at 3,4 or whatever.

I've been looking at these pictures for the 3 hours, I still can't spot the difference.

Yes, good solid pups. Used the dog before & I like the ones I kept.

Thought you weren't supposed to advertise pups on this group? These are my Malusi ones 😄 😄

You're not the only one having that problem. A friend registered a cocker litter in August & they've lost it, pups are ready to go & he's got no papers. I was hoping the new site would be an upgrade on the old site with some new features. For instance being able to work out coi's for future litters, so 2 or 3 generations down I can go back to my own lines for litters without going too close. Instead they've come up with a system that makes it almost impossible to work out even basic stuff, it's like they're trying to hide information.

The pedigree of the dam is wrong on the Champ site. Sirocco Speed is by Ettinsmoor Sandman of Bellaroyal out of Sirocco Wind. BTW, the new kennel club site is utter w**k, who ever designed it wants ******** up the **** with a big stick sideways.

Maybe she's just had a senior moment filling in the pedigree on the Champdogs web page? We'll find out on the 30th when myKC is back up & running.

I suspect the pup market is still strong. We've been getting a lot of inquiries for pups from friends of friends, friends of people that have had pups from us in the past etc.

Someone I pick up with had one. Two seasons ago we never actually saw it on a shoot day, we took the **** a lot. Last season he'd bought himself an L200.

Unfortunately it's the bit most folk omit to train.

Selling pups at the normal rate in these difficult times isn't ideal. It's not always easy to pick the puppy trader that's knocking on your door.

This is correct for all current model vehicles but you need to check for older models. I've got a mark 7 Hilux double cab & it's less than 2040kg kerb weight. i don't think that single cab pick ups are classed as dual-purpose & are subject to commercial vehicle speed limits.