sticko Posted February 24, 2010 Report Share Posted February 24, 2010 can any one help i have a deben tracer max {old type with turrets and centre spot opaqe blue glass lens 12volt]THE BULB HAS BLOWN the unit is a sealed beam and you cant remove or get at the lamp deceided to phone deben direct and ask for a replacement beam unit they said they have never done a sealed tracer max and i would have to buy a complete new light ? can any one help or advise as this seems a bit daft thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albob Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 i tried to find a sealed beam but,cannot find one and a bulb is listed for your model,making it non sealed. this is the bulb part for your lamp.DA2652.....Replacement Xenon Bulb 50w can you not get it apart and post a pic?to help. al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticko Posted February 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 i tried to find a sealed beam but,cannot find one and a bulb is listed for your model,making it non sealed.this is the bulb part for your lamp.DA2652.....Replacement Xenon Bulb 50w can you not get it apart and post a pic?to help. al hi thanks for reply but no you cant split the glass and get it apart the actual lamp inside the sealed beam is the same as the new lamps but soldered to a 2 prong probe iam actually a spark sorry forgot to mention deben say there is no replacement available so i will have to purchase a new one they say they are only£53 which is fine if you say it fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albob Posted February 25, 2010 Report Share Posted February 25, 2010 blimey,that is a blow..£53 is way to much and i would look for a lamp with a bulb for that price.2ndhand ones do pop up. al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_R Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Can you see any numbers or codes on the sealed beam item itself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticko Posted February 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Can you see any numbers or codes on the sealed beam item itself? hi no cnt see any markings on the unit oter than 128 and 50w looks like i will have to bite the bullet {pardon the pun} and buy a new one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_R Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Shame, as all these lamps are not specialised to shooting, and a bit of searching around other industries can sometimes yield a better price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 I don't know the unit you refer to, my Deben Mini is 10 yers old and my Max a bit less, both are a bit fiddly to change the lamp on but neither are sealed!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusk2dawn Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 can any one help i have a deben tracer max {old type with turrets and centre spot opaqe blue glass lens 12volt]THE BULB HAS BLOWN the unit is a sealed beam and you cant remove or get at the lamp deceided to phone deben direct and ask for a replacement beam unit they said they have never done a sealed tracer max and i would have to buy a complete new light ? can any one help or advise as this seems a bit daft thanks in advance Hi I can help you on this, what you have is a Tracer max that has at some time been fitted with a "Deben Blue Eye" sealed beam unit, These lamps were scope mounted in the 70,s, I had one and only sold it last year. I have done the same with one of my Tracers,I bought the unit on the bay it fits perfectly and imo give a much better beam. The sealed beam units sometimes come up on the Bay, I paid about £15 for mine. Cheers Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticko Posted February 26, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 thanks for that rob souns exactly what it is will troll the bay yhanks again pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant.mass Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 thanks for that rob souns exactly what it is will troll the bay yhanks again pete i got the same lamp and you can get a sealed 12v or 6v beam from www.music-man.co.uk its a Par_36_Reflector a 12v beam is £6 and a 6v is £4 here's a link mate Par_36_Reflector Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_R Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 That's what I meant when I said that these lamps are seldom if ever made just for shooting kit. If it really is the GE4515 then that is what is used in Disco "Pin spots". That is a 6 volt, 30 watt very narrow spot, measuring 4.5 inches diameter. Sometimes they do use the GE 4405 which is a 12 volt equivalent, but that is not very common. Strikes me as an odd choice for a gun lamp, as the field of light is extremely narrow indeed. Re-reading the OP, it states 12 volt, and an opaque blue glass lens... so that rules out the GE4515, shame as I have dozens of those lying around and you could have one for a pint... Any chance you could take a photo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 If no joy then give Deben a ring,they are very helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albob Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 If no joy then give Deben a ring,they are very helpful. he did in his first post. al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant.mass Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 (edited) That's what I meant when I said that these lamps are seldom if ever made just for shooting kit. If it really is the GE4515 then that is what is used in Disco "Pin spots". That is a 6 volt, 30 watt very narrow spot, measuring 4.5 inches diameter. Sometimes they do use the GE 4405 which is a 12 volt equivalent, but that is not very common. Strikes me as an odd choice for a gun lamp, as the field of light is extremely narrow indeed. Re-reading the OP, it states 12 volt, and an opaque blue glass lens... so that rules out the GE4515, shame as I have dozens of those lying around and you could have one for a pint... Any chance you could take a photo? like i say i got the same lamp kit but the blue eye is just painted onto the glass/lens and 12v 30w Screw Terminal 4405 Lamp is the same lamp mate and it works better with out the painted blue eye on it Edited March 12, 2010 by ant.mass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant.mass Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 (edited) here's pic of my original blue eye as you can the blue eye is just painted on and a pic of 4405 beam i got from music-man.co.uk its the same beam and like I say it works much better with out the blue eye just use it with a red filter Edited March 12, 2010 by ant.mass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_R Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Cool, looking at that I would think the blue area also slightly widens the beam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant.mass Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 john did you say you have got some 12v beams mate ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John_R Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 No, I have the 6 volt (GE 4515). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant.mass Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 ok no wrries mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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