boatby Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 just got baikal stealth full hushpower. Has anyone tried different cartridges. found subsonics no quieter than standerd 3 inch mags. 2" louder than 2.5" in eley and fiocchi really loud even in 2". The eley 2"give loud bang as do the 3" but 2.5" just sound like a sping airgun.has anyone used any other makes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeh Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 just got baikal stealth full hushpower. Has anyone tried different cartridges. found subsonics no quieter than standerd 3 inch mags. 2" louder than 2.5" in eley and fiocchi really loud even in 2". The eley 2"give loud bang as do the 3" but 2.5" just sound like a sping airgun.has anyone used any other makes. This isn't right. The Subsonics should be noticably quieter, they where when I had a hushpower. The whole point is being sub-sonic speeds, you get no sonic boom and hence they WILL be quieter. You sure you didn't mix the cartridges up? otherwise I'd take the boxes back and complain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomV Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 This isn't right. The Subsonics should be noticably quieter, they where when I had a hushpower. The whole point is being sub-sonic speeds, you get no sonic boom and hence they WILL be quieter. You sure you didn't mix the cartridges up? otherwise I'd take the boxes back and complain. There is a noticeable difference between subs and a standard load. Subs sound like an air rifle, where as a standard load had a loudish 'crack' sound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 i'd try getting someone else to shoot it and you stand 30yrds off to one side and have a listen i bet you get completely different results mate they sound quite loud when you the one shooting it so you'll get a better idea at distance, 2" lyalvale are stupidly quiet, 2.5" louder but both a good bit quieter than eley subs and standards lyalvale 3" are louder than subs mate not tried eley 2" and 2.5" i don't think i have anyway, i've tried some gamebore 2.5" no7s but thought they was about the same as lyalvale 2.5" no6's maybe a fraction quieter if i remember rightly. have you any idea of the age of it i don't know if they've changed the mod design, my baikal stealth synthetic is about 9 months old and i think its great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GatGun Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Forget subsonics ! Standard 2.5 " carts are quiter and have more hitting power. Lyavale etc or if you want to stick with felt wads as they suggest the ely 2.5" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 (edited) I found Eley Fourlongs 2 1/2 in alot quieter than 3in Eley subsonics,definitely. I use alot of 12g Eley subsonics and find they kill crows and rabbits absolutely stoners at normal shotgun range. Edited March 14, 2010 by vole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 (edited) My and my mate Unclestuffy off here, have been testing .410 cartridges For both sound reduction and killing power. Here are our findings. 2" 9 gram Eley fibre wads: very loud, not very effective ( loud because the shot is so light its not slowed down enough and is supersonic when it leaves the barrel, and not effective because the pattern fails at anything beyond 10 yrds) 2" 9 gram gamebore plaswads: even louder than Eley as above, very close range. 2 1/2" 12.5gram Eley: quieter than 2" and kill much better, also abit cheaper than 3". Lyalvale 2 1/2" 14grams plaswads: louder than the Eley but kill just aswell, pattern slightly better! Fiocchi 3" 19 grams plaswads, kill very well, Slightly louder than Eley's 3"ers . Eley 3" 18grams fibers subs and and normal, seem the same to me??. Like i said these are just my thoughts on the matter after shooting lots of rabbits, squirrels, pigeons and magpies with a fully moderated Pedretti gun. Edited March 14, 2010 by Daveo26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveo26 Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 If the gun is new you need to shoot a fair few throught the gun until it gets gets carboned up a bit, They are much quieter than when brand new. Iv cammo taped the mod on my gun and it seems to take the metalic twang out on firing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Like Daveo I found the Eley normal and the subs in 3in pretty similar despite the physics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boatby Posted March 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Like Daveo I found the Eley normal and the subs in 3in pretty similar despite the physics. cant tell the differance between the subs and standard 3" carts. happy with the 2.5" sound levels. glad others have found 2" eley louder than 2.5". my stealth is new had about 100 cart put through it got full lenth neoprene silencer cover which helps with the twang off the silencer. 3" fiocchi mags really loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
night owl Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 was the gun new if so you have to fire a good 100 to 150 rounds throught it first before it starts to get quite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 Forget subsonics ! Standard 2.5 " carts are quiter and have more hitting power. :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclestuffy Posted March 14, 2010 Report Share Posted March 14, 2010 I am with Dave026 - find that the 3" Fiocchi and subs have the same kill power but would never get 9g cartridges again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viking Posted March 15, 2010 Report Share Posted March 15, 2010 all very interesting, as im just looking for a .410 moded gun, good work guys lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graysclassics Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 all very interesting, as im just looking for a .410 moded gun, good work guys lee Me too, Me too, Me too, ok wont get too excited; all my rifles have moderators, why not shotguns as well? Particularly when I have a pain in the ar** neighbour on one of my shoots. Question is - why does caliber make a difference to sound? Surely the moderator will take away the "bang" if it is designed properly and big enough? If the shot is travelling subsonic - why would it make a difference if its .410, 20g or 12g. Would someone with more intelligence than me please enlighten us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 I have found eley fourlong great around cattle and horses etc, but if you want to shoot at anything 25 yards plus then a 3" is the only way to go, even if they crack a tad louder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 I agree. The fourlongs are very quiet, but don’t have much range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 well for my money,the smaller the gauge the quieter they are,,,you cant tell me a 410 and a 12g make the same noise.i use a moded o/u 20g,for some things,other times a 28g,sometimes an unmoded 20g,and only rarely 12g,and they certainly dont all make the same volume of noise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dasher Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 On 07/02/2018 at 12:07, Rimfireboy said: I agree. The fourlongs are very quiet, but don’t have much range. 44 minutes ago, hawkfanz said: well for my money,the smaller the gauge the quieter they are,,,you cant tell me a 410 and a 12g make the same noise.i use a moded o/u 20g,for some things,other times a 28g,sometimes an unmoded 20g,and only rarely 12g,and they certainly dont all make the same volume of noise. Only about 8 years late for your replies!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 5 hours ago, Dasher said: Only about 8 years late for your replies!!!! Sorry, didn’t intend to upset anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psycho Posted March 4, 2018 Report Share Posted March 4, 2018 Agree with rimfireboy 4longs are very quiet but i find eley 18g 3 inch fibre in sonic and sub sonic to be the best and not as dirty a cartridge as the fiochi. I use sonic in both my silenced and un silenced 410... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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