JJaxeman Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 I am just awaiting the official licence now since the FEO is very happy with my setup so to speak, I am thinking of going for a CZ452 22LR any one have a problem with that so to speak and money is tight All help appreciated. Thanks Jas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 you can pick up some .22 for very little money £50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kip270 Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 I think we have all said it before CZ's have a huge following in .22rim and they have also got a following in.17hmr/mach2. Have a good look around first before you part with your cash, you can pick up a bargain at auction if you have any near you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 JJ, You'll be very hard pushed to find anyone on this forum that will put down the CZ. Its got to be one of the most popular rifle about and I havent met a single person on any forum that has said they arent very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peck Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 (edited) Sorry to put it so bluntly but have you seroiusly considered getting a .17HMR, it will do everything a .22lr will do mostly a lot better. You may still have time to change your mind before your cert arrives, it will cost you money if in 6 months time you decide you want one. Edited November 22, 2005 by peck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJaxeman Posted November 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 Thanks for the advice Peck but I did also put down a 17HMR with sound Mod, it's just that my first purchase once I have the cert will be a 22lr. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussex lad Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 JJ, Nows the hard bit , the waitings gonna seem like forever but its worth it :o . See ya thurs weather permitting Cheers, Brian.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 Sorry to put it so bluntly but have you seroiusly considered getting a .17HMR, it will do everything a .22lr will do mostly a lot better. You may still have time to change your mind before your cert arrives, it will cost you money if in 6 months time you decide you want one. there is absolutely no replacement for a 22rimfire in anyones collection, it forfills a almost completely solo market: rimfire (cheap) and subsonic (quiet), nothing else does this, the hmr is cheap, but its noisey (supersonic, dosent matter how noisey the muzzle noise is) the hmr might have 75 yards at least on the rimfire for effective range, and might give you the ability to take chest shots if you dont want meat. but its supersonic, which is in my opinion its real problem. im not saying it hasnt got its place for long range bunny and crow control. but i could not recomend to anyone that they get a hmr over a 22lr. you need a rimfire to do quiet discrete rabbit control in area's which are too close to civilisation to use a supersonic round. as for the cz 452, for the money you cannot get a more accurate, well built new gun. ive had mine just short of a year, and would not replace it if i had the choice. it might not be as attractive as say a sako finfire, but its got 99% of the performance, and the aesthetics are fine, and i would rather £200 change than a gun which looks a bit better. get the brooks kit, no matter what people say about the standard triggers, the brooks kit improoves it alot, and more often than not it needs alot of improving. other things to watch out for, the cz's are aften not floated properly (normally touching down the right hand side) the guns are very easy to alter the point of zero on with a change in tightness on the front most screw, i have found that everytime the gun is removed from the wood i need to spend a few rounds on the range finding the correct tightness for it to get those mashed 1 hole groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 When I first got my .17hmr, I couldn’t get over how good it was on those 125yd rabbits, and left my .22 in the cabinet. At one point I almost considered selling the .22rf, until one afternoon I took it out for a quiet day in the woods for a bit of squirrel huntin’. It was a great day out with 50 yd shots being the maximum, and when I wasn’t shooting tree rats I was plinking into the bank on the other side of the little field that runs alongside the wood. Made me realise that there is no substitute for a moderated .22 rimfire and a box of sub’s for a couple of hours of pure silent (and cheap) enjoyment. If you decide to go down the “Used” .22 rf route, take care to inspect the bolt face and breech face. These are the crucial bits to watch out for (the crown can be easily re-cut and refinished with a bit of W&D and a marble). On some old worn-out .22s the edge of the chamber gets worn away so that the extractor/ejector cut-outs break though into the chamber, which means the cartridge case isn’t supported properly. This leads to all sorts of pressure problems, which translate into vertical stringing over distance. Excessive headspacing is also a bad thing to watch out for and can only really be detected if you have access to a set of headspace gauges. No more than 46 thou’ is really desirable in a sporter; 42 thou’ in a match rifle. (If you buy a 10-22 then forget about headspacing, because the 10-22 fires from any ******* headspace it feels like) Then try and see if the bore is clean and free from any rust stains, because these will pick up lead from shooting. And then the shots will become erratic until cleaned out, at which point the pick-up will start all over again. Some of the older BRNOs will be very loose in their stocks and will have to be re-bedded to ensure a proper fit, but if the barrel and action are good, then worth the effort if the rifle comes at the right price. (Although triggers may be a problem.) Don’t buy a gun that has a really badly knocked about look, because it will not have been looked after by the previous owner. And if he can’t be bothered to look after it then gawd knows what the bore is going to be like. If it looks ****….then it probably IS ****. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth Stalker Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 Dunganick Where can you get the brooks trigger kit? How much? And how easy is it to fit? Also what bipod would you reccomend? Cheers S.S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted November 23, 2005 Report Share Posted November 23, 2005 i am not nick (but i won't use caps for the answer so it feels like i am him ) you can get you trigger kit here: http://cz452.com/ they don't cost much and they are not difficult to fit, you need a good thin pin punch and a small hammer don't order one just for the sake of it, not all 452 need it, you may get away with just backing the adjustment screw off get a harris bipod if you can afford one, the sportsman or york guns are best for these, if not get a rockmount from the optics warehouse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted November 23, 2005 Report Share Posted November 23, 2005 I am just awaiting the official licence now since the FEO is very happy with my setup so to speak, I am thinking of going for a CZ452 22LR any one have a problem with that so to speak and money is tight All help appreciated. Thanks Jas JJ, If you get a 452 I wouldn't bother getting a secondhand one unless you know who is selling it. They are only 250 quid or so and where you live you can go to Andersons and haggle a bit. They undercut everyone at the Midland Game Fair when I bought mine off them, if you get some other bits at the same time they my round the price down for you too. If money is that tight and you wnat one off someone you can trust you can by mine (speak to Snake first though ) Then I can treat myself to a carbine as a christmas present from me to me :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dog Posted November 23, 2005 Report Share Posted November 23, 2005 Get a harris bipod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted November 23, 2005 Report Share Posted November 23, 2005 i am not nick (but i won't use caps for the answer so it feels like i am him ) you can get you trigger kit here: http://cz452.com/ they don't cost much and they are not difficult to fit, you need a good thin pin punch and a small hammer don't order one just for the sake of it, not all 452 need it, you may get away with just backing the adjustment screw off get a harris bipod if you can afford one, the sportsman or york guns are best for these, if not get a rockmount from the optics warehouse harris are very nice, if you can afford one, i cant, i thought about a rockmount, but some said the base piece was brittle, so ended up getting a brocock bipod, it weighs about the same as the harris, and in my opinion for a field bipod is easily as functional, however the springs to return the legs to the upright position (makes sense if you have one) are a bit weak, so the legs are a bit woberly. this is a minor glitch, you will never notice it in the field, only when benchresting (which i use a front stand for anyway) as stuartp said, straight from the man himself on http://cz452.com/ is cheapest, however york supplies carry them, as well as most rifle specific gun shops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJaxeman Posted November 24, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 Thanks to all for your help. Once Cert arrives I will be off to get a new CZ452 and I will try Andersons fist for a price cheers Stuart P since as you say they are fairly local and I am going to need a few extra's so hopefully they will do me a deal. And I will sort out a trigger kit to. Cheers Jas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 andersons did me a great deal, at the time the 452 varmint was up for about £250 they sold it to my dad for £225 plus sling, and QD clips but my old man has spent a few pennies in there over the years, so we tend to get quite a good discount. great guys anyway, they do a good deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted November 24, 2005 Report Share Posted November 24, 2005 (edited) Is your dad up for sale Nick, or can he be rented out on a daily basis, I have a few beer tokens for him and need a new rifle. JJ, gimme a shout when ya wanna go up there, i'll give ya a lift. Edited November 24, 2005 by Axe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted November 28, 2005 Report Share Posted November 28, 2005 When oi was a lad..... Andersons had a shop in Brighton, I bought my 687 there and they did good deal on that for cash, ahh those were days: Golf GTi in the drive Plenty of cash in the pocket Maggie in No10 - oh, maybe not then :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJaxeman Posted November 29, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 Went to Andersons the weekend with Axe/Sussex Lad and I now know that a CZ452 22lr synthetic stock is for me thanks to all. Jas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted November 29, 2005 Report Share Posted November 29, 2005 It was a good trip out to Andersons, a fine and very helpful shop indeed. Setlled on the new Sako Quad, hope it works out. :thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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