sights for a shotgun using slugs

[straightshooter1]

right guys have just had slugs approved on my licence for deer and fox but I also do some wild boar hunting which is the main reason for aquiring this ammo now thinking about getting some sort of sight not sure if I go with a scope or a red dot sight who out there has experience with this all advice appreciated

[mowdy]

right guys have just had slugs approved on my licence for deer and fox but I also do some wild boar hunting which is the main reason for aquiring this ammo now thinking about getting some sort of sight not sure if I go with a scope or a red dot sight who out there has experience with this all advice appreciated

I use a red dot on my benelli for shooting boar and also have tru -glow open sights fitted for back up .I have tried shot gun scopes but they did not work for me.Red dots or open sights are also good for rifles when shoting driven boar.

 

Bob.

[straightshooter1]

I use a red dot on my benelli for shooting boar and also have tru -glow open sights fitted for back up .I have tried shot gun scopes but they did not work for me.Red dots or open sights are also good for rifles when shoting driven boar.

 

Bob.

 

 

cheers bud keep the advice coming also bod which red dot site do you use :unsure:

[welshwarrior]

The Army have a red dot sight fitted to the combat shotgun that works really well with slugs and buckshot.

[mowdy]

I use a cheap opti-mate red dot had it for 5 years and have had it on my .308,303, marlin444 and the benelli and it works well out to 100yards

 

Bob

[Paddy Galore!]

right guys have just had slugs approved on my licence for deer and fox but I also do some wild boar hunting

 

you jammy soandso norfolk FLD wont let me have 'em.

I have heard from some very reliable sources tho that red dot is the way to go. :unsure:

[straightshooter1]

:unsure: looks like the red dot is the one

[CharlieT]

I occasionally use slugs for deer and have tried both scope and red dot. I find the red dot sight much the better of the two, it's the way I would advise you to go.

[killer_pigeon]

i have got a red dot i found last week for sale if you want, i have had it for years and never used it, its a Tasco red dot one

[straightshooter1]

i have got a red dot i found last week for sale if you want, i have had it for years and never used it, its a Tasco red dot one

 

 

 

hi bud just sent you a pm and thanks for the advice guys

[mowdy]

straightshooter If you want to try a red dot sight out some time let me know

 

Bob.

[Vince Green]

Williams gun sights in America do fixed sights for shotguns but the last time I looked they weren't big on websites.

[straightshooter1]

straightshooter If you want to try a red dot sight out some time let me know

 

Bob.

 

 

Hi Bob that would be great bought so much stuff over the years and then found that I hated it and its just such a waiste of money pm me when you are free

 

 

sacha

[njc110381]

Is it not illegal to shoot Deer with a smoothbore gun unless they're causing unavoidable damage to crops or forestry? That is of course as well as for humane dispatch.

 

I'm sure you can't just go Deer stalking with slug. Boar and Fox maybe, but not Deer.

[Steel100]

right guys have just had slugs approved on my licence for deer and fox but I also do some wild boar hunting which is the main reason for aquiring this ammo now thinking about getting some sort of sight not sure if I go with a scope or a red dot sight who out there has experience with this all advice appreciated

 

You ask about 'red-dot' sights. I have a Benelli SuperNova pump fitted with an Eotech 512.A65. I use it for 'target shotgun' with slug and find it absolutely great (it is a little on the big side, however).

 

All the best

 

Andy

[straightshooter1]

Is it not illegal to shoot Deer with a smoothbore gun unless they're causing unavoidable damage to crops or forestry? That is of course as well as for humane dispatch.

 

I'm sure you can't just go Deer stalking with slug. Boar and Fox maybe, but not Deer.

 

 

slugs have been put on my fac licence for deer and fox so yes I can. I also shoot wild boar in croatia aswell

 

if an opportunity raised itself whilst out in the field be it a fox or a deer doing damage either to live stock or crops and all I had was a shotgun and some slugs in my pocket (as all good boy scouts come prepared) i would not hesitate to pop a slug in and deal with the quarry as long as i was confident that I could safely shoot and humanley kill it

 

a slug at 100 yards can group within 4" and at 50 1" groups are easily achieved so if you are going to shoot any quarry with a smooth bore shotgun using a rifled slug it's best to get as close as possible

 

it's funny though isn't it why should it be ok to shoot bore or a fox with something that you feel for whatever reason is not suitable for deer but is ok for the boar or fox doesn't all quarry deserve repect. they ar all living creatures

 

 

but to be honest I wont be going out stalking with slugs as I have a .243 and a .308 for stalking

Edited August 2, 2010 by straightshooter1

[mowdy]

When i asked for slugs to go on my Fac shot gun for wild boar my FLO said it was not a problem and that it was just a ammo varriation so there was no charge and that i could use slugs for deer control which they put on my Fac as well .

 

Sacha will be in touch.

[njc110381]

I've just found the relevant pert of the document I was talking about. I've copied and pasted it below, not to be a smart *** but just to inform some of you chaps who have slugs conditioned for Deer. They can be used, but only under special circumstances. If you use them just because you see a Deer and happen to be licensed for slugs and their use you could be in trouble! I don't see the problem, but then I don't make the law!

 

The whole document can be found here..... http://www.cheshire.police.uk/idoc.ashx?do...&version=-1

 

Deer (England and Wales)

14.2 Section 4(2) of the Deer Act 1991

prohibits the use of certain types of firearm

for the purpose of taking, killing or injuring

deer. These are set out in Schedule 2:

Firearms: any smooth-bore gun; any rifle

having a calibre of less than .240 inches

or a muzzle energy of less than 2,305

joules (1,700 foot pounds); any air gun,

air rifle or air pistol.

Ammunition: any cartridge for use in a

smooth-bore gun; any bullet for use in a

rifle other than a soft-nosed or hollownosed

bullet.

Edited August 2, 2010 by njc110381

[straightshooter1]

To be honest not sure how all this works as im not a firearms officer i presume that the reason i have been granted a slug on my licence is because i showed good reason to have it i didn't ask for slug for deer but my flo gave it to me, as for when and how it should be used I'll look into it and thankyou for bringing it to my attention for fox there is no such restriction so it will be used on a regular basis when the opportunity arrises I also organise hunting trips to croatia where we shoot wild boar and i'll be using it for that aswell

[njc110381]

As I said, I didn't post it to try to prove anyone wrong. I'd just hate to see someone get in trouble for something their FAC had misled them into doing!

 

To shoot Deer at all with the slugs you'd need them listed on your FAC, so I guess when it was processed your FEO figured they may as well be listed just in case you did have a Deer damaging crops or stuck in a fence somewhere that needed to be shot with them? I'm sure if one of us spotted a badly wounded Deer we would shoot it with whatever we had that would do the job, FAC allowing or not. I'm not sure where we'd stand if we did, but you'd hope common sense would give you a good reason for breaching your conditions?

 

I really don't see why they can't be used at normal stalking ranges? Obviously on the hill they wouldn't have the accuracy needed but when woodland stalking shots over 100 yards are rare and they'd be fine. As always the law doesn't really make sense?!

[Dunkield]

Unless it was wounded, why would you want to blast a massive hole in a deer anyway?

[straightshooter1]

who said anyone wanted to lol, but if you did the damage caused to the deer if shot in the kill zone would be the same flesh damage as if you shot it with a .308 balistic tiped round

[wildrover77]

I have just applied for a semi .410 and slugs and a 12 bore rifle and slugs in North yorkshire. What are NY police like with issueing a variation for slug?

 

I aim to buy a Tar Hunt 12 bore bolt action shotgun for bench rest shotgun shooting and a saiga .410 for target shooting on a 50m range.

[njc110381]

Unles it was wounded, why would you want to blast a massive hole in a deer anyway?

 

I'd guess that being fairly low velocity and probably not expanding much they wouldn't make a huge amount of mess? A big hole in the area of the wound isn't a bad thing as long as the shock doesn't spoil too much meat around it. In fact a big wound channel should just make them fall over more quickly and bleed out better?

 

Only my opinion, but I've seen ruined Deer from .243s and hardly any damage at all from a .45-70 round. I think the speed of a bullet is as much of a factor as size when you're trying to avoid bruised meat. That's why the 6.5 seems to rarely make too much mess, because it's relatively slow.

[Paddy Galore!]

Are we talking about hydraulic shock here?

a good example was a munty i bagged with the 22/250, very messy :blink:

pulverised most of the shoulder and tore half the skin away, not a pretty sight :unsure:

didn't feel too good about that one.