gaz-loc Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 is a 12 bore shotgun capapable at point blank like half a foot? just need to know cos its that or someone with a rifle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyCM Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 is a 12 bore shotgun capapable at point blank like half a foot? just need to know cos its that or someone with a rifle .....is it friendly :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz-loc Posted September 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 its in too much pain to move, broke its leg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 BIG RIFLE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Tait Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 its in too much pain to move, broke its leg 12 will be fine - 4,5 or 6 shot Acts almost as a slug at that range Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 12 will be fine - 4,5 or 6 shot Acts almost as a slug at that range Jim NO IT WONT. Unless you plan on shooting it several times... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dempy Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 12 will be fine - 4,5 or 6 shot Acts almost as a slug at that range Jim Agreed, better than rifle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz-loc Posted September 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 okey dokey think it might be a rifle job. but i do have 50 gram bbs but dnt know if this will make a difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Tait Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 NO IT WONT. Unless you plan on shooting it several times... Is this from personal experience, Bart? if thats the case, then your aim was wrong I would normally use 0.32 S&W long, but have shot cattle with a 12 before. Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dempy Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 okey dokey think it might be a rifle job. but i do have 50 gram bbs but dnt know if this will make a difference? shot gun, at the range he will get the wad and all, slower than rifle, dont even need bb's, at half a foot it is lika a one lump! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz-loc Posted September 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 okey thanks, much appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Is this from personal experience, Bart? if thats the case, then your aim was wrong I would normally use 0.32 S&W long, but have shot cattle with a 12 before. Jim Yes, shot quite a few with a .32 and seen them shot with other things including a shotgun and the shotgun was very messy and didnt do the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Tait Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Yes, shot quite a few with a .32 and seen them shot with other things including a shotgun and the shotgun was very messy and didnt do the job. There shouldn't be any mess ? - all the shot ends up down the neck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinytim38 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 .22 hv or .243 cf on a big bull :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Tait Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 http://www.bcva.eu/bcva/sites/default/file...2010%282%29.pdf page 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbart Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 There shouldn't be any mess ? - all the shot ends up down the neck Dont want to get into an argument about it,all i am saying is i have shot about 100 cattle and on a bull i wouldnt use a shotgun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 (edited) I have put cows and a big bull down in the past using both a 12 bore shot gun with no 6 game cartriges and a .308 rifle . If you can get close to the beast and I mean very close like 2 or 3 feet then the shotgun is the boy . If not the .308 with a well placed shot to the base of the neck were it joins the shoulder . I shot a very large bull that had broke a leg with my .308 at about 60 yards with a neck shot it killed it instantly ,although the attending vet shot it again in the head with a .32 pistol . I can tell you all now that a 12 bore shot gun at close range will kill any cow or bull if shot in the head . Harnser . Edited September 8, 2010 by Harnser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowchaser Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 http://www.bcva.eu/bcva/sites/default/file...2010%282%29.pdf page 13 Brilliant link in this post. It's for information like this that I joined PW. Not that I'm ever likely to slaughter cattle, but interesting all the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silpig5 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Brilliant link in this post. It's for information like this that I joined PW. Not that I'm ever likely to slaughter cattle, but interesting all the same. i thought the same . although its good knowledge to have if you get called up in an emergancy ! :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinytim38 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Yeh right oh, thats till your stood up close an personal with 1 ton of muscle and you realise you dont have a spare pair of underpants :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowchaser Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 Yeh right oh, thats till your stood up close an personal with 1 ton of muscle and you realise you dont have a spare pair of underpants :blink: True but in this case the bull is apparently too ill to move. I guess it takes brave man to get the job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinytim38 Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 its not a nice job, trust me I think about it before :blink: and after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 There's a mixture of really good and really bad advice in this thread! A shotgun is the perfect weapon to destroy cattle at close range. A 12G will kill a bull cleanly and with little mess using any cartridge you can find - I promise you'd do it with 21G number 9. 4,5 or 6 would be better ~28/30g. Hold the gun 6-12 inches from the head aim as in the attachment down the neck. http://www.hsa.org.uk/Resources/Publicatio...ER%20sample.pdf Although I have never personally shot a bull with a .410 I have shot adult cattle perfectly humanely and if I had nothing else to hand I would use that. A rifle is dangerous at close range and remember [obviously] not to look through the scope at very close range or you will scalp the animal! A .22 rifle will kill a cow at point blank range. If anyone has failed to kill a bovine instantly with a shotgun they must have shot it in the wrong place! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 as Apache I've seen it done once and the vet I was with at the time was very impressed at the way it went down and that was a serious sized Belgian blue bull. From memory the knacker man did use heavy lead but I have to say we were both surprised the shotgun was the tool of choice, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted September 8, 2010 Report Share Posted September 8, 2010 (edited) Listen to all of the psuedo slaughtermen on here! Call the knackerman or your vet, asking for advise on euthanasia for a large injured, dangerous animal on the internet is mental. Apache, no insult intended but you should know better as a vet. For the record, I've been a licensed slaughterman for years, and I still miss sometimes with a captive and have 500kg of cattle going bat**** after shooting, what will he do then with the 12b at 'close range'? Edited September 8, 2010 by kyska Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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