Need help quickly

[gaz-loc]

is a 12 bore shotgun capapable at point blank like half a foot? just need to know cos its that or someone with a rifle

[AndyCM]

is a 12 bore shotgun capapable at point blank like half a foot? just need to know cos its that or someone with a rifle

.....is it friendly :blink:

[gaz-loc]

its in too much pain to move, broke its leg

[Blackbart]

BIG RIFLE

[Jim Tait]

its in too much pain to move, broke its leg

 

 

12 will be fine - 4,5 or 6 shot

Acts almost as a slug at that range

 

 

Jim

[Blackbart]

12 will be fine - 4,5 or 6 shot

Acts almost as a slug at that range

 

 

Jim

 

 

NO IT WONT.

 

Unless you plan on shooting it several times...

[Dempy]

12 will be fine - 4,5 or 6 shot

Acts almost as a slug at that range

 

 

Jim

 

 

Agreed, better than rifle

[gaz-loc]

okey dokey think it might be a rifle job. but i do have 50 gram bbs but dnt know if this will make a difference?

[Jim Tait]

NO IT WONT.

 

Unless you plan on shooting it several times...

 

Is this from personal experience, Bart? if thats the case, then your aim was wrong

 

I would normally use 0.32 S&W long, but have shot cattle with a 12 before.

 

 

Jim

[Dempy]

okey dokey think it might be a rifle job. but i do have 50 gram bbs but dnt know if this will make a difference?

 

 

shot gun, at the range he will get the wad and all, slower than rifle, dont even need bb's, at half a foot it is lika a one lump!

[gaz-loc]

okey thanks, much appreciated!

[Blackbart]

Is this from personal experience, Bart? if thats the case, then your aim was wrong

 

I would normally use 0.32 S&W long, but have shot cattle with a 12 before.

 

 

Jim

 

Yes, shot quite a few with a .32 and seen them shot with other things including a shotgun and the shotgun was very messy and didnt do the job.

[Jim Tait]

Yes, shot quite a few with a .32 and seen them shot with other things including a shotgun and the shotgun was very messy and didnt do the job.

 

There shouldn't be any mess ? - all the shot ends up down the neck

[tinytim38]

.22 hv or .243 cf on a big bull :blink:

[Jim Tait]

http://www.bcva.eu/bcva/sites/default/file...2010%282%29.pdf

 

page 13

[Blackbart]

There shouldn't be any mess ? - all the shot ends up down the neck

 

 

Dont want to get into an argument about it,all i am saying is i have shot about 100 cattle and on a bull i wouldnt use a shotgun.

[Harnser]

I have put cows and a big bull down in the past using both a 12 bore shot gun with no 6 game cartriges and a .308 rifle . If you can get close to the beast and I mean very close like 2 or 3 feet then the shotgun is the boy . If not the .308 with a well placed shot to the base of the neck were it joins the shoulder . I shot a very large bull that had broke a leg with my .308 at about 60 yards with a neck shot it killed it instantly ,although the attending vet shot it again in the head with a .32 pistol . I can tell you all now that a 12 bore shot gun at close range will kill any cow or bull if shot in the head .

 

Harnser .

Edited September 8, 2010 by Harnser

[Shadowchaser]

http://www.bcva.eu/bcva/sites/default/file...2010%282%29.pdf

 

page 13

 

Brilliant link in this post.

 

It's for information like this that I joined PW.

 

Not that I'm ever likely to slaughter cattle, but interesting

all the same.

[silpig5]

Brilliant link in this post.

 

It's for information like this that I joined PW.

 

Not that I'm ever likely to slaughter cattle, but interesting

all the same.

 

i thought the same .

although its good knowledge to have if you get called up in an emergancy !

 

:blink:

[tinytim38]

Yeh right oh, thats till your stood up close an personal with 1 ton of muscle and you realise you dont have a spare pair of underpants :blink:

[Shadowchaser]

Yeh right oh, thats till your stood up close an personal with 1 ton of muscle and you realise you dont have a spare pair of underpants :blink:

 

True but in this case the bull is apparently too ill to move.

 

I guess it takes brave man to get the job done.

[tinytim38]

its not a nice job, trust me I think about it before :blink: and after

[apache]

There's a mixture of really good and really bad advice in this thread!

 

A shotgun is the perfect weapon to destroy cattle at close range. A 12G will kill a bull cleanly and with little mess using any cartridge you can find - I promise you'd do it with 21G number 9. 4,5 or 6 would be better ~28/30g. Hold the gun 6-12 inches from the head aim as in the attachment down the neck.

 

http://www.hsa.org.uk/Resources/Publicatio...ER%20sample.pdf

 

Although I have never personally shot a bull with a .410 I have shot adult cattle perfectly humanely and if I had nothing else to hand I would use that.

 

A rifle is dangerous at close range and remember [obviously] not to look through the scope at very close range or you will scalp the animal! A .22 rifle will kill a cow at point blank range.

 

If anyone has failed to kill a bovine instantly with a shotgun they must have shot it in the wrong place!

[al4x]

as Apache I've seen it done once and the vet I was with at the time was very impressed at the way it went down and that was a serious sized Belgian blue bull. From memory the knacker man did use heavy lead but I have to say we were both surprised the shotgun was the tool of choice,

[kyska]

Listen to all of the psuedo slaughtermen on here!

 

Call the knackerman or your vet, asking for advise on euthanasia for a large injured, dangerous animal on the internet is mental.

 

Apache, no insult intended but you should know better as a vet.

 

For the record, I've been a licensed slaughterman for years, and I still miss sometimes with a captive and have 500kg of cattle going bat**** after shooting, what will he do then with the 12b at 'close range'?

Edited September 8, 2010 by kyska