TJW Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 My Beretta Silver Pigeon fitted with standard Optima "flush" chokes. I understand Teague make direct replacements. Do Teague chokes make a noticable improvement ? If so - why ATB Toby... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 If you can't hit a cow's ar*e with a banjo the teague chokes won't help. From my understanding Teague chokes do give good patterns but then so do berretta. Save your money and have a few more rounds of sporting. That will do more for your shooting than a new set of chokes. Cheers MC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bindi Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 chronic chokitis, don;t worry about the chokes, i am sure that beretta have all the different company's chokes to test whilst they were designing and making theirs, so i would be surprised if there were any partic advantages or noticable pattern differences. I'd save the money, buy some more cartridges and enjoy the shooting. Better still, use the money to have a lesson with a CPSA Coach. Bindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemini Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Friend of mine has just forked out over £500 for a new stainless barrel for his Anschutz .22 target rifle, in the belief that he would shoot better that he was. I tried to be as diplomatic as I could and to point out to him that his average of 94 was as good as he had ever been, and that I couldn’t see a new barrel making any difference. Undaunted he had the work done…………..and still shoots a 94 average. What he should have done was spent the money on 5000 rounds of Eley Tenex Ultimate EPS, and then got down and practiced a little bit more. G.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Do Teague chokes make a noticable improvement ? If so - why NO. And should know I use them and can't hit a dustbin lid with them I couldn't one before either so obviously they don't make a difference... If you aim in the right place you will hit them, almost regardless of choke type or cartridge type size etc etc. I used my sons 20bore a couple of weekends ago and hit no less clays than I normally do, that had cylinder and 1/4 choke and using 24gram cartridges.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catamong Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 For a change, I agree with every other poster on this one. I've used Beretta Optima chokes in my 682 Gold E and they throw a lovely even pattern. Also I don't subscribe to the view that clays can generally fly through "gaps" in the pattern. So, save your money and spend it on getting your gun properly fitted to you. Most people don't bother, then wonder why they only average 50% at Sporting. The gun must shoot exactly where you think it is shooting. Cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bindi Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 For a change, I agree with every other poster on this one. I've used Beretta Optima chokes in my 682 Gold E and they throw a lovely even pattern. Also I don't subscribe to the view that clays can generally fly through "gaps" in the pattern. So, save your money and spend it on getting your gun properly fitted to you. Most people don't bother, then wonder why they only average 50% at Sporting. The gun must shoot exactly where you think it is shooting. Cat. Wise words Catamong!! Lets see how many pigeon watchers will still be choke fiddlers!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJW Posted February 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 Thanks to all of the above for their wise words... The choke question was more from interest having seen many adds and wondered what (if any) effect a 3" bit of tubing would have, well one manufacturer versus another anyway. My top proiorities are: 1) get the gun assessed for fit as it was an "off the peg" purchase. 2) spend as much time as possible at the clay ground getting "rounds down the range". 3) win the lottery and retire therefore helping action 2 (above). Thanks again... Toby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted February 1, 2006 Report Share Posted February 1, 2006 I dream of the day when I can hit 50% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzo Posted February 2, 2006 Report Share Posted February 2, 2006 Ever since fitting some Teague Ported chokes my sporting 'hits' have gone up to 85-90%. Regular 'smokers' as well!! Ha, that would be my ideal plan anyway. As everyone else has so correctly stated, get the gun fitted and get some practice. Only when the gun is 'holding you back' upgrade or customise. Sorry if I woke anyone up with the first comments. Enzo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJW Posted February 3, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 Hi Guys... Having taken the advice to spend some time and get the gun fitted it transpires that I'm a "leftie" ( a fact I was well aware of) and the nice salesman sold me a new right-handed gun (a fact that has just been pointed out to me). Disapointing based on: 1) sales person knew I was a "leftie", we discussed it at length 2) Beretta do sell the Silver Pigeon in a left hand stock 3) I still waited 5 weeks for delivery Still, the new guy at the shop was suitably embarrassed and he's going to sort it out FOC. Fingers crossed that my shooting improves or at least the brusing on my cheeks not so bad... Rgds Toby... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 Dare you to name the shop!!! (After it is all sorted of course :thumbs: ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bindi Posted February 3, 2006 Report Share Posted February 3, 2006 Make sure that when your l/h pigeon comes, it has as nice or better wood than the one he first you. If not, i would point this out, and ask for an FOC upgrade to a pigeon 2 or 3. Try your luck, it might work, particularly if they think they might get bad press. You'll love the pigeon, its a super gun :thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJW Posted February 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 It was the DJ Litts gunroom at the Royal Berks Shooting School (my nearest local supplier). I have to say the guy who runs it now has approached the issue with a very open mind so no complaint there. The Silver Pigeon III's a cracking gun and the woodwork's superb so I'll be tought to find a LH stock to match. A "bend" at their risk maybe the only answer... All the best Toby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bindi Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 Sounds reasonable to me,.. if you have one, send me a pic of the r/h pigeon 3 as I am looking for one at the moment, but want one with stunning woodwork, cheers Bindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJW Posted February 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 (edited) Sounds reasonable to me,.. if you have one, send me a pic of the r/h pigeon 3 as I am looking for one at the moment, but want one with stunning woodwork, cheers Bindi Bindi... PM new your email address and I send you a couple of pics. (however might not be until tomorrow, the forestock looks OK under flash but the buttstock reflects too much and looks pants...) Is it me or is this getting like "Readers Wives" ?!? ATB Toby Edited February 6, 2006 by TJW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 Chokes...if we're talking decoying pigeons which I think in the main we are then you don't need 'em. Most of your shots will be taken under 30yds and then the best thing you can do for your cartridge to kill ratio is open chokes. If you're seriously into competition shooting then you'll want to join the gang and use a different choke for each stand...or ask Digweed or R Faulds what they use... my bet would be the same choke at least most of the time. Teague are custom made, Beretta, Browning etc are standard off the shelf. Bit like a Ford and an Aston; is there any comparison??? They both get you from A to B! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 If you're seriously into competition shooting then you'll want to join the gang and use a different choke for each stand...or ask Digweed or R Faulds what they use... my bet would be the same choke at least most of the time. I have seen both of these practising, not in a proper competition (I wouldn't have been there if it was ) and choke wise they shoot 'full' or 'fuller than that' so they can see which part of the clay they have hit and make minor adjustments according to that. Yeah I know, makes you puke doesn't it! Don't forget Highlander, some people on this forum regularly shoot pigeons out to 90 yards so maybe they need a touch of choke :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyR Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 I got a Teague 1/2 choke for my Silver Pig III today as I have some CRAZY idea that it might be good to shoot 1/2 and 1/2. A mate of mine lent me his teague one and I put it in under my existing Beretta one. Using Teague choke key, which is little more than a steel cone it was clear that the Teague is significantly tighter than the Beretta one. Has anyone else noticed this? As a matter of interest the Teague 1/4 choke was much closer to the Beretta 1/2 so know I don't know which one to use. Should have never started ********* around in the first place - but I am bound to hit more clays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookie Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 Bit like Ford vs. Aston? Strange that, one of the directors at work bought an Aston and it was back at the dealers four times in three months with engine problems, but a mate's old Escort estate did 250k miles and he never ha it serviced in five years and it _still_ worked when he sold it. Anyway, moving on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 Here http://www.clayshootingusa.com/html/archiv...ving%20Upon.pdf is an article on different chokes through the same barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 Ban all chokes . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 I have seen both of these practising, not in a proper competition (I wouldn't have been there if it was :look: ) and choke wise they shoot 'full' or 'fuller than that' so they can see which part of the clay they have hit and make minor adjustments according to that. Yeah I know, makes you puke doesn't it! Don't forget Highlander, some people on this forum regularly shoot pigeons out to 90 yards so maybe they need a touch of choke :blink: Don't forget, they have probably zerod on a range carefully before doing this..... so they must be right and we need to show them more respect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmaxphil Posted June 20, 2009 Report Share Posted June 20, 2009 I got a Teague 1/2 choke for my Silver Pig III today as I have some CRAZY idea that it might be good to shoot 1/2 and 1/2. A mate of mine lent me his teague one and I put it in under my existing Beretta one. Using Teague choke key, which is little more than a steel cone it was clear that the Teague is significantly tighter than the Beretta one. Has anyone else noticed this? As a matter of interest the Teague 1/4 choke was much closer to the Beretta 1/2 so know I don't know which one to use. Should have never started ********* around in the first place - but I am bound to hit more clays the thing to remember is gun makers chokes are bored to give a 1/4 patern as a percentage but the likes of teague make thairs to a size ie 1/4 whould be + 10 thou so in the case of my browning cylnder choke it is a - size ( bigger than the bore ) so if you buy after market chokes you must pattern them gun makers newer chokes are much better now so i woldent change optima for other makers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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