Bowen20 Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Hi just a quick question my land has been cleared for up to and including a .22-250 so i was wondering im sure that a .223 is smaller than a .22-250 i dont want to look like a spanner when i put in the variation so i was just wanting to double check. Thanks for your time, Regards Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 both fire the same diameter projectiles but have different sized cases where the powder goes. 22-250 takes a fair bit more and has a fair bit more clout than the .223 this is just the briefest of brief description have a look on google for more info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy. Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 If you want to turn a rabbit into a pie, use a .223 if you want a sock, use a 22-250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 If it's been cleared for 22-250 - then any 22CF should be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 When I could put in for either a .223 or a .22-250,I decided on the .22-250 because it was slightly a faster round.They are both superb calibres for Fox Control. ATB whatever you choose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead-Eyed Duck Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 If you are going to shoot foxes beyond 250 yards then get a 22-250. Less than that and a 223 will do the job just as well. I've had 2 x 223's, and a 22-250. If you are intend to go lamping at night, then it is very rare that you will shoot beyond 250 yards unless you have very big, flat fields to shoot over. Most foxes are probably shot at less than 150 yards at night. Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
humperdingle Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 A .22-250 will give a flatter trajectory and more ft lbs. However, the cost to reload or even buy ammo can increase compared to the .223. If you're going to be shooting and reloading lots, then cost might be a factor. If it's not, i'd go for .22-250 every time. They have a reputation for being barrel-burners, but somewhat unfairly I think. You'd have to be shooting lots of rounds quickly to knacker a new barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigstevouk Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 If you want to turn a rabbit into a pie, use a .223 if you want a sock, use a 22-250 Great description Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 If you want to turn a rabbit into a pie, use a .223 if you want a sock, use a 22-250 Neither will do the job anygood IMO they both create food for the crows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowen20 Posted December 29, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Thanks alot guys I especially like the sock quote lol but most of my shooting is done at night and there are plenty of foxes knocking about so I think that a .223 will do me fine I originally put the variation in for a .22 hornet but they passed for bigger so I will happily oblige and go for the .223 instead. Can anyone recommend a decent rifle because there are so many out there and thanks for your replies so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasher Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Savage 12 BTCSS or 25 LV-T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Thanks alot guys I especially like the sock quote lol but most of my shooting is done at night and there are plenty of foxes knocking about so I think that a .223 will do me fine I originally put the variation in for a .22 hornet but they passed for bigger so I will happily oblige and go for the .223 instead. Can anyone recommend a decent rifle because there are so many out there and thanks for your replies so far. If you want a quality make of rifle get either a Tikka or Sako!They are both made by Sako in Finland.The super smooth cocking of the bolt and match accuracy make these rifles highly sought after. Excellent guns!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 A .22-250 will give a flatter trajectory and more ft lbs. However, the cost to reload or even buy ammo can increase compared to the .223. If you're going to be shooting and reloading lots, then cost might be a factor. If it's not, i'd go for .22-250 every time. They have a reputation for being barrel-burners, but somewhat unfairly I think. You'd have to be shooting lots of rounds quickly to knacker a new barrel. Look after your barrel and it will look after you, all being equal a 22-250 barrel will need replacing before a .223 barrel, but buying rifles should be about matching need with tools! If you need a 22-250 then get one, if you don't need quite all that, then get a .223! Remember, ammo type can make a lot of difference, but barrel twists also have to be considered. I am in the arguably fortunate position that I have a lot of tools, that is all they are, I buy what I need and use what I need, many have 1 or 2 FAC tools and enjoy some "sport", I have 7, so I select the most appropriate for any job! ATB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasher Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 If you want a quality make of rifle get either a Tikka or Sako!They are both made by Sako in Finland.The super smooth cocking of the bolt and match accuracy make these rifles highly sought after. Excellent guns!! Theres a world of difference between the two makes now they are owned by Beretta. Also the m595's and M55 Tikka's and Sako 75's are a differnt class to what's being pumped out now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted December 29, 2010 Report Share Posted December 29, 2010 Theres a world of difference between the two makes now they are owned by Beretta. Also the m595's and M55 Tikka's and Sako 75's are a differnt class to what's being pumped out now. I think it comes down to one of two options.. a: If you have the money b: your a tackle tart Both will perform... I'd like to see the stock Sako equivalent (75/85) shoot a tighter group than my T3 - they probably share the same barrel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colster Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Can anyone recommend a decent rifle because there are so many out there and thanks for your replies so far. At the moment, the Browning A-Bolt's represent really good value for money.... or maybe look at Howa - depends how much you want to spend really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasher Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 I think it comes down to one of two options.. a: If you have the money b: your a tackle tart Both will perform... I'd like to see the stock Sako equivalent (75/85) shoot a tighter group than my T3 - they probably share the same barrel! You only have to compare the 2 side by side to see where Beretta got their production cost savings from. Why do you think people are clamouring for the older Tikka and Sako actions for semi custom build rifle projects and yet by and large ignoring the numerous second hand T3's that fill gunshop shelves up and down the country and in the USA? How many BR and F class shooters choose a T3, how many choose a Savage? http://www.savagearms.com/news/article/?id=1DoKxAoZh Team Savage Wraps Up Long-Range Season in Dominant Fashion Team Savage Takes National Title, Breaks 1,000-yard Record http://www.savagearms.com/news/article/?id=2K5nTzegQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Yes... but does that really matter to the OP who wants to shoot the odd Fox or Roe? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 that may be a challenge GB Have to say I'm eyeing up a sako 85 finlight at the moment and it is a very nice gun the reason I'll probably splash out is a I will have the money and b I want a gun I can take stalking and its a lovely weight if you have to carry it far. and there is a c which is its going to be a keeper so for a gun that I will probably have to re barrel at some stage its worth having one that is worth re barrelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Will be interesting to compare results alex... your place or mine ? What will be even more interesting is if yours will shoot the same load as mine? Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 it will indeed be interesting though as you know I struggle to be bothered too much group size if its under an inch I'll be happy, were we to make it carry the rifle two miles then shoot the group I know who I'd put money on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 I'd take the 308 for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowen20 Posted December 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Found this on guntrader brand new is £675.00 or there is a second hand one for £475.00 read a couple of review about them and they are supposed to be quite good i dont normaly go for the synthetic look i prefer wood but im quite taken with this. Remington .223 700 SPS TACTICAL 1:9 twist. Thanks for your advice so far it has given me alot to think about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyb Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 Watch the twist rate... in 223 for foxing / hunting you really want a 1 in 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted December 30, 2010 Report Share Posted December 30, 2010 thats what I've got at the moment, nice gun for one of the cheaper offerings, the only regular complaints are the stock is too flexible and the trigger but both are easy to change. Mine shoots very well with a hogue stock and rifle basix trigger. What I would say is unless you intend target shooting stick with the standard barrel, it is a nice easy to carry well balanced gun. With a heavy barrel they do become a bit of a lump to drag about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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