canthitathing Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Please dont let this go from "clayshooters disagreeing" to "clayshooters making themselves look like helmets by rolling around in the mud over nothing". It's been done so many times before. KILLJOY!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Zapp - point taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 All I'm saying is, if you guys want to disagree, we want to know why, because then we can all learn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingStars Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 So what.....they are! I was quickly shooting in the late 40's / 50 at straw balers. My first competition shoot I was humbled with a 60/100. But I also said,it depends on your goals. If your goal is to shoot as well as you can at 'straw balers' then great,you'll do well sticking with less choke. Competitions aren't for everyone and not everyone aspires to be at a high level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingStars Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Zapp. If you use more choke,you have less room for error and are able to read your breaks better. With an open choke,sure you may be killing the birds but you may be 2-3 feet either way of centre pattern. Using a tighter choke,you'll miss or chip and therefore learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 I'm not agreeing or disagreeing, I was just suggesting that we dont want clayshooting threads on PW to turn into unseemly bunfights, because the nuggets of good information get lost in all the handbag swinging that can happen in such discussions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spara Dritto Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 (edited) I bet they don't need half. I bet they could be broken with quarter. Maybe? Although, It would be luck - not skill at 50 yards with a going away edge on clay through 1/4 choke. Edited October 9, 2011 by Beretta Italy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshLamb Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 I use skeet and a quarter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Maybe? Although, It would be luck - not skill at 50 yards with a going away edge on clay through 1/4 choke. If you are hitting NONE of them with quarter and ALL of them with half then I suspect it's something that YOU are doing differently, rather than the choke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 shooting stars! if you are B class now and want to move up to A class next year i would recomend that you use 1/4 1/4 not 3/4 3/4. you will have a far better chance of doing it this way. once you have done that and moved on to AA class, then start getting a little more 'precise' as thats when you know what your doing. To many people have a fixation on chokes and dont really know what each choke is capable of because their ability lets them down more than the choke ever will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) Never had a problem with 1/4 and 1/2 in the OU and 1/2 in the SA. Agree with the last post if I miss shot it's usually me! Anyway I like the clays to break and don't care how spectacular it is! Edited October 10, 2011 by utectok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salopian Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) This could be debated until the cows come home, and even longer. It is fair to say that the most common combination of choke for sporting clays is 1/4 & 1/2, BUT, let's get a few things in order. Many very good shots use tighter chokes and don't bother changing them, in the order of 1/2 & 3/4 or 3/4 & Full, they reason that they can then 'read' their clay breaks better. What is actually happening is they have the ability to connect with more clays than a novice with a smaller but more dense pattern, so if they hit a L to R crosser on the leftside they then know to increase their lead a little on the next shot. With a more open choke such as 1/4, your breaks can be on the fringe of your pattern, very chippy, with no indication where your open pattern was in relation to the clay. BUT, if we hit all off the close presentations and about 25% of the distant targets we would probably never shoot lower than a 75 ex 100. Science and pattern testing shows that the most useful choke is 1/2 choke, it is open enough for most presentations and has enough pattern percentage for distant targets. As said earlier Duncan Lawton is an exceptional shot with 1/2 choke and he once said to me that he is amazed how many people miss behind a target and will not get the gun moving out in front. Perhaps a better exercise than choke changing would be to see how much lead you can give a target before you start missing in front? Edited October 10, 2011 by Salopian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Beretta - well said and perhaps a little more diplomatically than my efforts (scrub perhaps). Salopian - an interesting idea about increasing lead. I will give it a try. One of the more useful tips I have come across. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingStars Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 I'm not going to flog a dead horse here guys. Enjoy your forum. Btw. Good post salopian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 10, 2011 Report Share Posted October 10, 2011 Shooting stars - I didn't agree with all of your posts, but life is like that. Can we start again? Hello and welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Magoo Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 I have recently started shooting clays. The advise I had was get your own gun, use 28g 7 1/2s fibre and if my score improves each week then I won't change anything. I will know when I get to the point where I can experiment but that is some way off. After 6 shoots my score was 20/50 but far more important I am really enjoying blasting away at defenceless clays. My choke is improved cylinder and my gun is a Webley & Scott 812 semi ( after reading a review on here). Loving it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spara Dritto Posted October 12, 2011 Report Share Posted October 12, 2011 I have recently started shooting clays. The advise I had was get your own gun, use 28g 7 1/2s fibre and if my score improves each week then I won't change anything. I will know when I get to the point where I can experiment but that is some way off. After 6 shoots my score was 20/50 but far more important I am really enjoying blasting away at defenceless clays. My choke is improved cylinder and my gun is a Webley & Scott 812 semi ( after reading a review on here). Loving it!! Really good to hear, keep it up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abc Posted October 14, 2011 Report Share Posted October 14, 2011 I've been advised to shoot with no multi chokes in my shotgun, just shoot threads. That way I'm not tempted to change chokes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beretta Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Obviously a case of the blind leading the blind then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 I've been advised to shoot with no multi chokes in my shotgun, just shoot threads. That way I'm not tempted to change chokes Wind up right? You nearly had me there No one would blast 28g of lead across choke screw threads, unless they really were intent on ******* their gun right up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 Advised! By whom? What Mungler said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulos Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 I know a couple of guys (good shots) who take their chokes out for the odd, really close target. It seems to work for them, but it's not for me though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 I presume they take their brains out at the same time. Perhaps there are none to start with. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 I know loads who do it! Not comfortable doing it myself but not seen any problems..... Yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted October 15, 2011 Report Share Posted October 15, 2011 I've seen people do it, but it clearly isn't good for the gun and it doesn't make a great deal of sense; part of the mental affliction of obsessively choke changing and forgetting to bring the skeet choke out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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