sully7s Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 I'm just about to send off for my firearms and I have put down 17hmr for bunnys and not so sure what I can put down for killing a fox! I don't want to be shooting 300yrds + and I don't want to kill any deer, so was jusy wondering what I should ask for and what's the min calibre they like you to use to kill such a animal?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 I'm just about to send off for my firearms and I have put down 17hmr for bunnys and not so sure what I can put down for killing a fox! I don't want to be shooting 300yrds + and I don't want to kill any deer, so was jusy wondering what I should ask for and what's the min calibre they like you to use to kill such a animal?? Your best bet would be to ask your FEO when he comes round for the visit. He might make a suggestion and add it to your application or he may well say to use the HMR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixhills 69 Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Save yourself Money by putting down for a .22 rimfire, 17hmr and a 22 center fire that will take you up to a 22-250 so it gives you a good range of tools from night shooting bunnys to foxing at over 100yrds also make sure you ask for a sound mod for each caibre if you have no wish to shoot Deer. There is no need to go for a 243 but it also depends on what your land is cleared for as the land needs to support the calibre. If you get it right the firt time then you will not have to pay for variation fees. Also think about put down for a FAC Air rifle might as well it will not cost you anymore. Just because you have the slot dosn't mean you need to fill it but you will be suprised how you will fined a job for each. Good Luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 I'm just about to send off for my firearms and I have put down 17hmr for bunnys and not so sure what I can put down for killing a fox! I don't want to be shooting 300yrds + and I don't want to kill any deer, so was jusy wondering what I should ask for and what's the min calibre they like you to use to kill such a animal?? 300 yds and over takes experiance more than calibre, balistically i should take a serious look at the .20 ruger practically the .223 rem upwards to the .243 win at biggest. Your going to find it a heck of a lot easier to learn how get closer than 300 than to garantee clean shooting over 300 though never mind what you can do at 100yds on the range 300 yds is a different kettle of fish entirely despite what the comics have to say oh, if limited to one bunny gun it would unquestionably be a .22 using subs and a moderator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Get yourself a .223 or a .222 (or any other .22 CF) + moderator... you cant go wrong for foxing. I promise. There is any number of different calibres we could all suggest, but stick with the basics to teach you all you need to know, then move on to bigger and (apologies) 'better' calibres on renewal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sully7s Posted June 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 300 yds and over takes experiance more than calibre, balistically i should take a serious look at the .20 ruger practically the .223 rem upwards to the .243 win at biggest. Your going to find it a heck of a lot easier to learn how get closer than 300 than to garantee clean shooting over 300 though never mind what you can do at 100yds on the range 300 yds is a different kettle of fish entirely despite what the comics have to say oh, if limited to one bunny gun it would unquestionably be a .22 using subs and a moderator. cheers for reply but i have been using 17hmr for a while now and killing bunnys at 275yrds and 22 cant do that sort of kills, as for 223 i think that will be going down to, cheers again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sully7s Posted June 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 Get yourself a .223 or a .222 (or any other .22 CF) + moderator... you cant go wrong for foxing. I promise. There is any number of different calibres we could all suggest, but stick with the basics to teach you all you need to know, then move on to bigger and (apologies) 'better' calibres on renewal. cheers 223 is going down on list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 cheers for reply but i have been using 17hmr for a while now and killing bunnys at 275yrds and 22 cant do that sort of kills, as for 223 i think that will be going down to, cheers again If there's not a misprint here, get the biggest cannon that you can afford. You're not going to have any trouble with 300 yard foxes and I can quite well see that at 704 yards a......... Seriously though, there's a couple of us just down the road in Exmouth, one who shoots 17HMR, who would welcome the chance to see you in action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadioles Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 cheers for reply but i have been using 17hmr for a while now and killing bunnys at 275yrds and 22 cant do that sort of kills, as for 223 i think that will be going down to, cheers again Killing rabbits at 275 yards with a .17 HMR Was this a "one off" or something you do regularly? The 30" bullet drop, never mind the wind correction, must be quite challenging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markws80 Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 cheers for reply but i have been using 17hmr for a while now and killing bunnys at 275yrds and 22 cant do that sort of kills, as for 223 i think that will be going down to, cheers again 17hmr killing bunnys at 275yrds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 cheers for reply but i have been using 17hmr for a while now and killing bunnys at 275yrds and 22 cant do that sort of kills, as for 223 i think that will be going down to, cheers again Great but why bother with a c/f :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 Save yourself Money by putting down for a .22 rimfire, 17hmr and a 22 center fire that will take you up to a 22-250 so it gives you a good range of tools from night shooting bunnys to foxing at over 100yrds also make sure you ask for a sound mod for each caibre if you have no wish to shoot Deer. There is no need to go for a 243 but it also depends on what your land is cleared for as the land needs to support the calibre. If you get it right the firt time then you will not have to pay for variation fees. Also think about put down for a FAC Air rifle might as well it will not cost you anymore. Just because you have the slot dosn't mean you need to fill it but you will be suprised how you will fined a job for each. Good Luck Am I reading this right, are you suggesting putting down .22CF and then getting whatever you want, from a Hornet to 22-250? I have heard this sort of thing before but it would NEVER happen in my region. Have you actually done this and had it approved? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 cheers for reply but i have been using 17hmr for a while now and killing bunnys at 275yrds and 22 cant do that sort of kills, as for 223 i think that will be going down to, cheers again Others got their first, my longest bunny ever with the HMR was 258 yards, witnessed and range finder checked. My RFD's longest is 285 yards. These shots, and conditions that allow them, present on occasion, and experience pays, just the same they are NOT everyday shots. In the great scheme of things that is far too far for general HMR shooting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulABF Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 i have been using 17hmr for a while now and killing bunnys at 275yrds Don't suppose you can pop over to Afghanistan can you? There's a battlegroup there who could use a guy with your talents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 Am I reading this right, are you suggesting putting down .22CF and then getting whatever you want, from a Hornet to 22-250? I have heard this sort of thing before but it would NEVER happen in my region. Have you actually done this and had it approved? Cheers I've done it with a .30 cal before. I couldn't decide between the magnums so they just listed .300 rifle to allow me to make my own choice as and when a decent rifle came up. The way I put it to them is that I wanted a .300H&H but wasn't sure if I'd be able to find one, so perhaps a .300 Weatherby could have been an option. They had no issues with it. 275 yard bunnies with the HMR... Not impossible but quite a statement from someone who is only just applying for a FAC and doesn't know what calibre to ask for to shoot Foxes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 I've done it with a .30 cal before. I couldn't decide between the magnums so they just listed .300 rifle to allow me to make my own choice as and when a decent rifle came up. The way I put it to them is that I wanted a .300H&H but wasn't sure if I'd be able to find one, so perhaps a .300 Weatherby could have been an option. They had no issues with it. 275 yard bunnies with the HMR... Not impossible but quite a statement from someone who is only just applying for a FAC and doesn't know what calibre to ask for to shoot Foxes! a polite way of putting it but i don't think i shall enter into further exchange with this guy myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted June 8, 2011 Report Share Posted June 8, 2011 275 yard bunnies with the HMR... Not impossible but quite a statement from someone who is only just applying for a FAC and doesn't know what calibre to ask for to shoot Foxes! I know Neil, he's a polite guy. That's his diplomatic way of saying he's caught a whiff of bull5h1t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper3 Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 bunnies at 275 Yds :blink: with 17hmr :blink: :blink: :blink: are you sure you don't mean feet I thought mine at 130yds was a reasonable shot with my 17hmr .. I'm only down the road from you, i would honestly love to see a shot like that.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markws80 Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 Don't suppose you can pop over to Afghanistan can you? There's a battlegroup there who could use a guy with your talents They would smell him coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 Here we go again...nonsense from a newbie who this time (thankfully) hasn't even been got an FAC! :o Just for the record I love my HMR and put 100's of rounds through it, often on a weekly basis, and the longest ever shot I've managed to cleanly kill a bunny was 187yds as measured by my trusty ranger! If you must spend time on long range shooting do it at paper rather than live quarry where field craft should be your guide! I also don't think an FAO is going to grant a new applicant a whole list of calibres that overlap in terms of 'reason for use'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safetyfirst Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 Here we go again...nonsense from a newbie who this time (thankfully) hasn't even been got an FAC! :o HAH! Almost as bad as a long time member trolling and fishing like this on a forum (OMG, I'm adding to it aren't I...). Comments like that are just going to upset people, nothing good ever comes of them, it just contributes to what people lovingly call "the bottom half of the internet" I also don't think an FAO is going to grant a new applicant a whole list of calibres that overlap in terms of 'reason for use'. Our lot seem to routinely allow .22 centerfire as a slot, allowing you quite a few options to fill it. It's essentially less admin for them as loads of people can't make up their minds between .223 and 22-250 and end up submitting variations which take up their time.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowen20 Posted June 9, 2011 Report Share Posted June 9, 2011 ok ok that does sound like ******** but on another note. me and my friend were out shooting my .223 and he brought his anchutz .17hmr and after we had a shoot at a few bunnies with mine we put an empty 50 round 17hmr box on a concrete post filled with mud i ranged it with my bushnells (which ive recently just sold) and it was 211 yards. It took him 18 shots to eventually hit the box with me watching though my scope and when it did there was minimal damage so for you be able to hit a rabbit at 275 yards with the first shot i find either ******** or fluky as owt. we put it back up and he shot it with mine after me telling him where to aim at 211 yards and he smashed it on the first shot mine is the .223 thow dont forget. .17hmr are good but i mainly stick to around 0-160 yards i find top end especially with it being so light and suseptible to the wind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sully7s Posted June 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 right then for u lot that dont beleave this can happen buy ur selfs a 17 hmr and a sweet 17 bsa scope which was made for 17gr and 20 gr bulliet remmington and hornaday and a nice range finder click on your range put on to your scope and off you go but i know nothing about bigger guns and just wanted to no what i can have with out pushing the boat out, i no that a 20 gr bullet a 300yrds will be 36" lower then target, and i have seen 311yrd kill on a bunny and that took 7 shoots but was done, i have been shooting for 20 years just because i have never owened doesnt mean dont no how to.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sully7s Posted June 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 right then for u lot that dont beleave this can happen buy ur selfs a 17 hmr and a sweet 17 bsa scope which was made for 17gr and 20 gr bulliet remmington and hornaday and a nice range finder click on your range put on to your scope and off you go but i know nothing about bigger guns and just wanted to no what i can have with out pushing the boat out, i no that a 20 gr bullet a 300yrds will be 36" lower then target, and i have seen 311yrd kill on a bunny and that took 7 shoots but was done, i have been shooting for 20 years just because i have never owened doesnt mean dont no how to.... i dont know any of you and will never meet any of you so why would i need to bull as you keep saying,it can be done with the right gear and not to much wind unless you got a wind meter and work out your moa, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sully7s Posted June 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2011 i dont know any of you and will never meet any of you so why would i need to bull as you keep saying,it can be done with the right gear and not to much wind unless you got a wind meter and work out your moa, ebay £59 for sweet 17 just buy it brought mine already may be tempting fate but there we go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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