deadeye ive Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Well for those that showed an interest in the relative threads here is one of the 22/250 eratic group shots .......In me homemade target holder The distance was around 95 yds and the target holder is 300mm square ...........If my memory serves me correct I believe the next shot went about 6"s high and to the left . Joking apart ,I hope you get the rifle sorted mate .......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miffy Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 You should have drawn the grouping on the target Ive. The .223 would have bounced off the frame don't ya think Tried a different scope tonight and still no better so at least thats something else ruled out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted April 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 You should have drawn the grouping on the target Ive. The .223 would have bounced off the frame don't ya think Tried a different scope tonight and still no better so at least thats something else ruled out. I've actually got the target but it's ull of .17 hmr rds ..............I'll see what i can do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Miffy, how many rounds have you put threw it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miffy Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Miffy, how many rounds have you put threw it? About 2000 Frank but i have had it checked over and was given the all clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Miffy, how many rounds have you put threw it? About 2000 Frank but i have had it checked over and was given the all clear. Prehaps its time for a visit to that good rifle smith you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miffy Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 He ok'd it I shall be calling him tomorrow though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Then what can it be i wonder?? very puzzling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miffy Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Its weird thats for sure....It normally groups less than 1/4" at 100. So for it to be now shooting 6" groups something has to be amiss. The only thing wrong at the minute is the safety catch spring is missing but that shouldn't cause the erratic groups. It will get sorted one way or another thats for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted April 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Ok! The shots in the Low centre are .22lr at 95 yds ,my apologies smack in the centre are .17 Miffy after the second shot i can't remember so I guessed 3,4 & 5 but I know they were all to the left of zero mate as i was observing through my scope A good .17 hmr group on the very top of the target though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Miffy, if you cant get it sorted, why not get a CZ 527 .223? Ok! The shots in the Low centre are .22lr at 95 yds ,my apologies smack in the centre are .17 Miffy after the second shot i can't remember so I guessed 3,4 & 5 but I know they were all to the left of zero mate as i was observing through my scope A good .17 hmr group on the very top of the target though my .204 grouped like that with the 40 gr V.maxes when i use to have it , thank god i got rid of the thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 okay things i would check scope (you have already done) moderator if there is one (shoot without and with) mounts, tighten, replace with old ones or ones off another gun known to be ok The free floating or bedding of the barrel, has it changed? the tightness of the action screws the bedding area inside the stock the crown on the barrel i suppose other things to consider would be damage to the chamber or barrel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miffy Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Ok! The shots in the Low centre are .22lr at 95 yds ,my apologies smack in the centre are .17 Miffy after the second shot i can't remember so I guessed 3,4 & 5 but I know they were all to the left of zero mate as i was observing through my scope A good .17 hmr group on the very top of the target though Was that my .17 group or dougys' I can't remember That grouping is horrendous but it didnt shoot as bad that tonight. I'm thinking about the CZ Frank but in .22/250 i will take a pic of tonights grouping and you can see that its better than the zeroing session i did with Ive I wonder if its just settling down from all the cleaning i gave it last week??? okay things i would check scope (you have already done) moderator if there is one (shoot without and with) mounts, tighten, replace with old ones or ones off another gun known to be ok The free floating or bedding of the barrel, has it changed? the tightness of the action screws the bedding area inside the stock the crown on the barrel i suppose other things to consider would be damage to the chamber or barrel Everything there has been checked already. The riflesmith checked the throat of the barrel and said that there is very slight wear but it isn't bad enough to be of any concern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted April 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 I think you'll find it was your group Miffy ..........Dougy liked to shoot at drawing pins and black 5p sized patches remember ..........Although a few weeks ago he was ready for putting the barrel across a fence post such was his frustration ..........One visit to uncle Ives garage later and he's has happy has larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miffy Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 I still remember hearing the ring from the first shot as it hit the frame and i thought what the hell was that ..... i didn't know i had hit the metal frame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted April 26, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 I wonder if its just settling down from all the cleaning i gave it last week??? Every time I clean my barrel with Butches bore shine and a bronze brush it takes only 5 shots to settle down to it's original zero .........In fact the first shot always goes low and 2-3" to the left .........I don't bother as much now as i feel i was over zealous before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 I think you'll find it was your group Miffy ..........Dougy liked to shoot at drawing pins and black 5p sized patches remember ..........Although a few weeks ago he was ready for putting the barrel across a fence post such was his frustration ..........One visit to uncle Ives garage later and he's has happy has larry Well Ive as you say happy as larry. Oh and i am sure that it was the HMR that did that drawing pin and not the 308 Miffy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miffy Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 Oh and i am sure that it was the HMR that did that drawing pin and not the 308 Miffy You were just lucky mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miffy Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 One visit to uncle Ives garage later and he's has happy has larry Can uncle Ives garage repair my 250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougy Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 One visit to uncle Ives garage later and he's has happy has larry Can uncle Ives garage repair my 250 could be worth a try... i think you just have to walk into the garage with it and give it a quick rub with a bit of sand paper get your ankle chewed by the Russle, growled at and thats it sorted. Oh and finished off with a cup of tea... Jokin apart uncle Ive did put me on the rite road Ive not sure if you posted the one when you missed the target made a nice neat hole in the swinger you made Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miffy Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 If the 22-250 is worn out, Better to live 2000 rounds as a Tiger than 5000 as a worm. Im sure you are looking forward to buying that cz .223 Mine groups like that with 55 grain bullets because they dont stabilise in the 14" twist, its perfect with 40's and 50's though, have you per-chance got some ammo mixed up? Im actually looking forward to wearing mine out, I'm having it made into a 6mm Dasher when it is. Still, keep on waiting I suppose while my 4000 fps Moly Coated bullets just shine that Sako Barrel. The king is dead, Long live the king. It's gonna be a .243 next for me. I use 50 grain vmax as they grouped the best for me Not got any other Vmax heads in the cupboard so i can't have got them mixed up. Never had any trouble with it until i tried it at paper. Not lost or wounded any fox or rabbit either. 6mm Dasher.......... sounds interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 (edited) Ok! The shots in the Low centre are .22lr at 95 yds ,my apologies smack in the centre are .17 Miffy after the second shot i can't remember so I guessed 3,4 & 5 but I know they were all to the left of zero mate as i was observing through my scope looks fine to me, I would be happy with that Edited April 28, 2006 by stuartp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted April 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 One visit to uncle Ives garage later and he's has happy has larry Can uncle Ives garage repair my 250 Wished I could Miffy The scope appears ok,Everthings tight ,Throat and crown are OK ..............Shame there is no one here local to you who has a 22/250 allowing you to try some alternative ammo has I can't think of anything else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miffy Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Wished I could Miffy The scope appears ok,Everthings tight ,Throat and crown are OK ..............Shame there is no one here local to you who has a 22/250 allowing you to try some alternative ammo has I can't think of anything else Oh well... its booked in for tuesday so i'll see what he has to say about it. Pity i can't get hold of a few rounds to try tho. Speak soon Ive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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