cant hit rabbits 123 Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 (edited) Evening chaps, I went for a walk on the farm today in my lunch break. There had been a chap decoying ealier in the day so I went down to the same spot to see if it was any good. When I got there I noticed lots of red and green strips, and on closer inspection they were shredded shotgun shells. Deeper into the hedge were more bits of shells, whole empties, of at least 6 differnent types and in varying states of decay, and cigarette butts. About 15 yards down the same hedge was a pile of shot crows and pigeons. I even found cases that had the crimps cut off and emptied, but still had a live primer in them. Now I can understand leaving the crows for nature, and eeven the pigeons if they had no other use and were shot only for pest control, but they dumping of cartridges I cant comprehend. Is it just me that thinks this is wrong? What do you all do with your dea birds, and what happens to your empties? Edited August 22, 2011 by cant hit rabbits 123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tis1979 Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Evening chaps, I went for a walk on the farm today in my lunch break. There had been a chap decoying ealier in the day so I went down to the same spot to see if it was any good. When I got there I noticed lots of red and green strips, and on closer inspection they were shredded shotgun shells. Deeper into the hedge were more bits of shells, whole empties, of at least 6 differnent types and in varying states of decay, and cigarette butts. About 15 yards down the same hedge was a pile of shot crows and pigeons. I even found cases that had the crimps cut off and emptied, but still had a live primer in them. Now I can understand leaving the crows for nature, and eeven the pigewons if they had no other use and were shot only for pest control, but they dumping of cartridges I cant comprehend. Is it just me that thinks this is wrong? What do you all do with your dea birds, and what happens to your empties? carts taken home and disposed off, pigeons off to the game dealer & corvids put in incinerator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapperz1991 Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 I think thats disrespectful, even though i have a semi auto and you know how far they can fling the empties i always try and keep a spare pocket for the empties i can find. I dont think the land owner would be too pleased, i certainly would'nt! Always clean up after myself, with regards to the dead birds, pigeons i would try to eat if not bag and dustbin same with the crows etc. (although not eat them) Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Take my carts home to possibly reload with non-toxic in the future. Pigeons get eaten and crows get left for foxes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant hit rabbits 123 Posted August 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 I spoke to the farmer about it. He was worried about still primed cases lying about and was annoyed about the empties. I thought it was very disprespectful not only to the farmer, but for me and anyone else who shoots there, as we usually end up tidying the mess up as not to get blamed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziplex Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Foreshore or field, if you don't pick up after yourself you need a kick up the ***** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonstew Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 doesnt matter what it is ..string pack up bottles crisp wrappers ..take it home if you brung it or shot it ...crows can be left .....ive picked up hundreds of cases from other peoples shooting makes me mad it only takes a few minutes at the end of the day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colster Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Leave no sign My only reason for pigeon shooting is for the pot, any opportunist corvids get tucked away into a hedge and all empty carts go in the bin back home. I shoot on a couple of paddocks and even take the brass from the LR home so it doesn't get ingested by horses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corvid wings Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 i allways make a point of visiting my last shooting position when i go back to any particular farm no matter how long ago i shot there,,you may be supprised how many emptys you find once the vegetation has died down , pigeons go home and corvids allways on top of the hedge for buzzards and under for charlie,,,,,,,,,,,,,now i know where to look for him ,,,,i set his table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Leave no sign Exactly. I'm a farmer and it p's me off to see empty cartridges around. (or any other litter for that matter) Must admit to being guilty of leaving rf cases where they fall, and pigeons and crows, though only walk around rather than decoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debaser Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 I was told long ago "the only thing you should leave is your foot prints" although if the farmer is happy with it, I'd leave corvids for charlie. ATB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosd Posted August 22, 2011 Report Share Posted August 22, 2011 Always pick up empty shells and also if I'm walking along and see one that isn't mine, goes in my pocket. Pigeons get eaten and corvids left for the foxes but tucked away in bushes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiautolee Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 (edited) My emptys always come home with me they get used as air rifle targets by a friend, if not they go in the recycling box, all pigeons shot go in the freezer, any crows get left in a few bush kitchens for mr foxy Edited August 23, 2011 by semiautolee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchieboy Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 I always try to pick up all of my empty cartridge cases and take them home to put in the rubbish bin. To leave spent cartridges lying around where they fall shows a total disrespect for the land where you are shooing and for the countryside in general! As for leaving whatever I shoot lying around where it falls that too is a "NO NO" for me. Rabbits get picked up for the pot or for bait for the fox traps I use, pigeons get picked up and breasted with the remains put on the dung heap and covered over to speed the rotting down process and crows, magpies etc get piched up and thrown under hedges or in ditches if there are more than I care to carry to the dung heap! As for foxes, they get their brush boned and the carcasses get burried in the dung heaps also! I had one farm where I was having "a bit of a field day" on the crows recently just after the bales had been taken in and the farmer actually asked me to make sure that I didn't just leave them where they fell as any that were not taken by foxes etc would rot down but might still leave a pile of feathers that might get picked up when they did their second cut later this year - I'm not sure if this would happen but I respect the farmers wish and the land that I shoot on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truckboy1 Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 Always pick up my empties they go home and in the wheelie bim Pigeons and Rabbits go to the Gamedealer, Rooks in the hedge for "recycling" and foxes normally end up in the River for the Eels and Crabs (its a tidal River) I used to leave the Foxes on the dungheap but the farmers dogs use to dig them out and eat them!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 (edited) everything i carry to the field i carry away with me, bin the cartridges eat or give away the pigeons, rooks shot in field get put in the wood opening near the highseat for mr fox the 1 thing that gets me is people sending dogs across a field of swathed rape to pick up a pigeon the amount of times i have seen it happen is unreal, the dog 'jumping over' the swaths at a fair rate of knots iwill be doing just as much if not more damage than pigeons, its irresponsible! Edited August 23, 2011 by TJ91 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 i allways make a point of visiting my last shooting position when i go back to any particular farm no matter how long ago i shot there,,you may be supprised how many emptys you find once the vegetation has died down , pigeons go home and corvids allways on top of the hedge for buzzards and under for charlie,,,,,,,,,,,,,now i know where to look for him ,,,,i set his table. I would be careful leaving crows etc on top of hedges for buzzards as I am sure anyone who keeps birds of prey will tell you lead is very,very toxic to them ,you perhaps not doing them the favour you think you are , the local gamekeepers will be happy mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted August 23, 2011 Report Share Posted August 23, 2011 (edited) For me anyone who leaves empties laying around deserves to lose the permission ,I shoot a auto and spend ages searching out every empty at the end of a session though I try to pick them up through the day as I go in and out of the hide ,I always have a couple of carrier bags for used cases and any other rubbish. As for shot birds they mostly go to the game dealer sometimes have some myself or give to people at work if I have not got enough for a trip to the dealer dont shoot many corvids but when I do they are burried. I found about 20 dead pigeons just left in a pile in a field this last winter,I know its suppose to be pest control but I would never do that ,i think they deserve more respect for the sport they give. Edited August 23, 2011 by fenboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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