Wildfowler12 Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 (edited) Morning all, I returned my Webley 812 to the gunshop yesterday for a refund as it ruined the 1st for me jamming up on every shot bar 1. So... I now have £450 to spend on a wildfowling gun I can take on the marsh and drop it **** the wipe clean ideally I'd like a synthetic one but NOT a hatsan or another Webley. Im not risking it again. I know there's not much in that budget but I don't want a brand new one. I'd take a 30year old thing so long as it's a magnum and is proofed to at least 1370 or steel shot proofed (I'll be using HP steel wildfowl loads). Any recommendations? O/U or S/A Edited September 5, 2011 by Wildfowler12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 The Winchester SX3's can be found at the money you want to spend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shot shot Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 As above, SX3 Alternatively, a decent pump gun such as a 500, 870 or 1300 Not too sure about the winchester sxp, I heard the first batch was rejected for quality issues. Not a good start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr-Sheen Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 if i was you i would probably look at something like a second hand wincherster sx3. they are a good gun for the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 Might find a Franchi raptor 712 for that money certainly a 612 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler12 Posted September 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 (edited) I'll have a look around, never used a pump but surely it would be more reliable than an auto? *My mates gun was a Winchester pump not an SX3 Edited September 3, 2011 by Wildfowler69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry P Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 (edited) I'm suprised about your mates sx3. I've nothing but praise for them,plus two mates have same gun and no issues what so ever, I would still consider one but thats your choice. I used to have a super nove pump great gun but the sx3 is better. My first fowling gun was a laurona, it was aa ou and was proofed for steel, i'm sure the inside of the barrels were cromed aswell, I hammered that gun but it never let me down. Edited September 3, 2011 by Terry P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted September 3, 2011 Report Share Posted September 3, 2011 I'll have a look around, never used a pump but surely it would be more reliable than an auto? Only when you remember to pump it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon123 Posted September 4, 2011 Report Share Posted September 4, 2011 Another vote for the Winchester SX3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler12 Posted September 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Anymore for anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatingisbest Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Franchi 912 variomax, fantastic guns for the money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Beretta Autos are very good, especially the extreema, but i dont know if you would find one in the price range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wharf Rat Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Second hand Beretta won't go wrong. If you run out of carts you can club things to death. The SXP pump is made in Turkey as per Hatsan and the 812. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 plenty of over n unders fit the bill but personally would be looking for a benelli nova pa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted September 5, 2011 Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Morning all, I returned my Webley 812 to the gunshop yesterday for a refund as it ruined the 1st for me jamming up on every shot bar 1. So... I now have £450 to spend on a wildfowling gun I can take on the marsh and drop it **** the wipe clean ideally I'd like a synthetic one but NOT a hatsan or another Webley. Im not risking it again. I know there's not much in that budget but I don't want a brand new one. I'd take a 30year old thing so long as it's a magnum and is proofed to at least 1370 or steel shot proofed (I'll be using HP steel wildfowl loads). Any recommendations? O/U or S/A Once mud is in the action area you stuffed with an auto, thats why we take care with them on the marsh. Buy a break action gun but like the semi if you get mud up the thing it will blow up on you. I use an sx3, it has never jamed on the marsh, i have two mates with Webleys only one had issues just the other day as he got it filled with mud, one with a beretta. Might i suggest you put the gun down action up on the gunslip if you must put it down or use a sling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler12 Posted September 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2011 Might i suggest you put the gun down action up on the gunslip if you must put it down or use a sling. That's exactly what I do, gun slip laid out and the action up resting on the slip. The Webley kept jamming because it was pants not because it was dirty. My beretta fairs slightly better on the marsh, but you can't beat an o/u... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 That's exactly what I do, gun slip laid out and the action up resting on the slip. The Webley kept jamming because it was pants not because it was dirty. My beretta fairs slightly better on the marsh, but you can't beat an o/u... Pants? is that a tecnical term for failure to look after it? I should be looking for a definitive reason why it failed to cycle before i made a desision, it could have been as simple as carbon build up in the ports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted September 6, 2011 Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 I'll have a look around, never used a pump but surely it would be more reliable than an auto? *My mates gun was a Winchester pump not an SX3 not if you "drop it in the **** and wipe it clean" it won't be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfowler12 Posted September 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2011 Pants? is that a tecnical term for failure to look after it? I should be looking for a definitive reason why it failed to cycle before i made a desision, it could have been as simple as carbon build up in the ports I am meticulous when it comes to cleaning my guns, especially my autos. It had nothing to do with the gun not being looked after. I fired no more than 150cartridges through the gun in the 8months I had it. It was in the gun smiths twice and returned to Webley 3 times for failing to cycle cartridges correctly. The gun was sparkling clean, well oiled, the piston in the correct position and the o-ring in tact. It successfully cycled 1 3' cartridge out of 10 test shots on the 1st September. Hence why it was returned, I'd had enough of it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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