Mungler Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Anyone know roughly what the effective range is of this gun using subsonic cartridges? Ta, Mung Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 what are you shooting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted May 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Magpies, crows and perhaps rabbits. But mainly magpies and crows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHead Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Actually that's a good question. I would like to know the same, mainly for rabbits, then pigeons. Don't ask me what cartridges i would be using 'cos I aint got a clue at the moment. I am still looking for a suitable .410, wether it be moderated, or double barrel. Might even get both. Cheers, Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 I have been reading an article in last months or the months before shooting mag saying 25 to 30 yards for a Hushpower 410 Using subsonic ammo makes em a tad lower on the muzzle energy front and limits their range. i would try 25 to 30 yards until you can get more decisive input on the effective range but i am pretty possitive it's about their humane limit LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHead Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Cheers for that LG, I am a bit surprised of the short distances, but good enough when shooting over ferrets. Got no chance with me air-rifle with a bolting bunny. I think it is a suck it and see job. Regards, Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted May 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 I was toying with the idea of a 3 shot pump hushpower (12g) - I think the saddlery and gunroom have one which they sell with an interchangable barrel so the gun will do anything you want it to. However, what put me off was the published noise level for the 12g pump. Mind you, I had no idea that the .410 was just so quiet - looking at a Db table doesn't compare to actually hearing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHead Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 I am not bothered really. I just want a shotgun thats easy to carry and good enough to dispatch what I hit. Without causing too much disturbance to the surrounding neighbours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted May 14, 2006 Report Share Posted May 14, 2006 Must admit i have a 410 single barrel (non moderated) and THAT is quite quiet too not a patch on the 12g LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHead Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 I think that there is a bit of overkill in the 12g though LG. Not as though I am a seasoned shooter, I have used a 12g when I was younger and foung that the amount of shot damage to the rabbit was a bit too much. It does not look too nice when the skinned carcas is bruised and coagulated. At the moment I am using an air-rifle and with a head shot it least the meat untouched. I suppose we can't have it all ways, there has to be a compromise in the end. Regards Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete k Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 andrew i find that using eley magnums are quieter than most carts and are very effective against all quarry they seem to kick less and the sound is more of a thump than a crack . pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosspot Posted May 15, 2006 Report Share Posted May 15, 2006 andrew i find that using eley magnums are quieter than most carts and are very effective against all quarry they seem to kick less and the sound is more of a thump than a crack . pete absolutely spot on :yp: or bornaghi or fiochi 19 grammer 3inch for power but a bit of a crack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefman Posted May 20, 2006 Report Share Posted May 20, 2006 I,ve got an old webley .410 bolt action I had it fully moderated by hushpower a couple of years ago. Don't use it that often but it is a fantastic little gun,I use it for ferals,rats,woodies on the telegraph wire in my garden and the odd bunny,I've even had a couple of foxes (10yds away) near our hen sheds,head shot dropped them dead immediatly.Any further would be dam right cruel. I've even it take with me sometimes when I walk the dogs in the woods once the pheasent shooting has finished as it is a good squirrel gun. I would say max range 20-25 yds also.Mine is fully choked and I use Eley Fourlong 2 1/2 inch. The only drawback is when firing up into trees the fourlongs are supersonic so you get a bit more noise,still yards Q than unmoderated. I hope this has encouraged you to get one,we need more people buying .410 cartridges so the price drops. Reefman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHead Posted May 21, 2006 Report Share Posted May 21, 2006 I don't really see the problem with the price of cartridges. I was told that .410's are dearer to run than a 12g, but at the end of the day, if you like you gun/rifle what's the problem. I wouldn't get a smaller car just because it guzzles diesel, I like the car and the deisel is required for it to be used and therefore doesn't become part of the equation. I would like a .410 for the lightness and quietness and cost of runnind would not be worried about. Regards Nick Even though, cheaper cartridges would be nice.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reefman Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 Never said the cost of running a .410 was a problem,it's pennies at the end of the day,However any money saved for my Swiss and offshore accounts is a bonus. The more money you have the more you make! Joking apart Nick is right excellent light guns that do some jobs very nicely. Whilst on the subject of.410's I have a realy neat little device made by webley and scott which is a sleeve/insert which converts a 12g to a .410 .It is about 10'' long and slides in the breech like a cartridge would so I can have .410 in one barrel and 12g in the other.If I could work out how to place a piccie I would place it on a post. Reeefman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHead Posted May 22, 2006 Report Share Posted May 22, 2006 Reefman, just add the file as an attachment before you press add reply, press the browse button, then find the picture you want to send, select open, select add this attachment then just post your reply. I'd like to see that, sounds like a good idea. If I am telling you to how to suck eggs , I am sorry. Try it, it may work.. Regards Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wacker Posted May 23, 2006 Report Share Posted May 23, 2006 Anyone know roughly what the effective range is of this gun using subsonic cartridges? Ta, Mung About 35yds using 3"Mags, I've used mine on everything, including pigeon decoying when i'm shooting near horses, lamping etc. They don't do a .410 subsonic cartridge though. Still a lot quieter than an un-moderated .410. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickHead Posted June 17, 2006 Report Share Posted June 17, 2006 Hey reefman, have you sussed out that photo yet of that sleeve. I'm pressed to get a .410 but I wanna 12 bore. Also where would I get one from, this sleeve would be a good addition. Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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