Sticky96 Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Hi guys, I know this is quite a poular shotgun but is it really as good as I have heard people say it is for the money or should I find a better 3 shot semi? Going to be used for Clay/Vermin Sticky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pointer Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Hi Sticky Have you not tried the search function? As this topic has been done to death! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky96 Posted March 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Hi Sticky Have you not tried the search function? As this topic has been done to death! Sorry, I'll try that before anyone else replies! Sticky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Like the answer to lots of questions, this one will draw responses from both ends of the spectrum. Some owners use them consistently without any problems, other owners have had problems (mostly loose chokes), some people will post denigrating them who have never even owned one. I have one and it has never let me down. You get what you are paying for, its not a gun I anticipate passing down to my descendants, nor do I expect to sell it in a few years and make a massive profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 i had one, and it was ok never jammed.and would throw out 28 gram shell i must have had a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harnser Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 I have never owned one of these guns and did not know they existed until I joined this forum and I will never own one . You dont have to own something to realise that a product is troublesome or unreliable or in fact dangerous . If you wanted to buy a new car or television or any thing there are ways of finding out how good a particular product is with out committing your hard earned cash and then realizing that you have bought a pig in a poke . Certainly ,the earlier hatsans had a quality control issue as to many of them were unreliable and an issue with shot getting behind the chokes and ruining the choke and the barrel . To my mind this is a dangerous issue and should have been dealt with immediately , Alas we are still seeing the same issues with these guns ,just read some of the recent threads ref these guns . My theory ref these guns is that they are not using the right materials and they are unable to cut the threads on barrels and chokes to the same degree as other makers . When buying the hatsan self loader it still seems to me to be a bit of a lucky dip as to whether you get one that will work and one that will be a pig in a poke . Not good enough for me . My advice for what it is worth is to stay well clear of these guns and invest your money into a second hand beretta,Remington or browning self loader . Harnser . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpshooter.123 Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 I own one, intact iv owned two and they are never a problem, look after it, keep it clean and feed it 2 3/4 inch cartridges over 28g and it will cycle flawlessly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedd-wyn Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 I'l be honest with you mate. I bought one two weeks ago, and after using it twice in the field, guess what? it jammed both times even with 30g+ carts. Now this really did my nut in because I really wanted to prove the antis wrong and really wanted the gun to work for me. However before loosing my rag and taking it back to the shop, I did as much research as I could on the internet and realised that the RFD had told me to put the 'O' ring on after attaching the barrel, turns out that he was incorrect, there are also videos on youtube that put the 'O' ring after the barrel, also incorrect. The 'O' ring should be inserted before the barrel was attached. Have taken it out twice since and have had no jams at all! Tried 28g 2/34s, 36g steel and they all worked.... eve the 2 1/2 inches cycled like a dream even though the RFD had told me that they wouldn't. So overall, well happy with mine, solid. ps Wouldn't do any harm in giving it a once over with oil before taking it out, mine seemed a bit dry when I took it out of the box. Hedd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrcbr Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Av got a leftie for sale check it out on trading post cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyotemaster Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 I have never owned one of these guns and did not know they existed until I joined this forum and I will never own one . You dont have to own something to realise that a product is troublesome or unreliable or in fact dangerous . If you wanted to buy a new car or television or any thing there are ways of finding out how good a particular product is with out committing your hard earned cash and then realizing that you have bought a pig in a poke . Certainly ,the earlier hatsans had a quality control issue as to many of them were unreliable and an issue with shot getting behind the chokes and ruining the choke and the barrel . To my mind this is a dangerous issue and should have been dealt with immediately , Alas we are still seeing the same issues with these guns ,just read some of the recent threads ref these guns . My theory ref these guns is that they are not using the right materials and they are unable to cut the threads on barrels and chokes to the same degree as other makers . When buying the hatsan self loader it still seems to me to be a bit of a lucky dip as to whether you get one that will work and one that will be a pig in a poke . Not good enough for me . My advice for what it is worth is to stay well clear of these guns and invest your money into a second hand beretta,Remington or browning self loader . Harnser . +++ The number of people complaining about Berettas is very small, they are very good new or used. The Brownings and Remingtons are also good guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanl50 Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 I have had one since March 2009, its been faultless, I dont clean no where near often enough but still doesnt fail, it manages 67.5mm but wont cycle 65mm I would happily recommend one you pays your money you know your not buying top because of the price. I also shoot a Winchester SX3 totally different gun and so was the price! Its all about whats in your wallet Regards Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 i had an early hatstand escort and in a word it was ****.....jammed and used to chuck two carts out the tube at the same time jamming the action. and the only way to fix the issue was to strip the barrel off in the field....I WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER. I traded it after 6 weeks and bought a benelli super 90 was in a different class. I now have a remmy 1100 fac and its been faultless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzthompson Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 I have one, keep it clean and it works fine. if you want new for £350, get one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 Like the answer to lots of questions, this one will draw responses from both ends of the spectrum. Some owners use them consistently without any problems, other owners have had problems (mostly loose chokes), some people will post denigrating them who have never even owned one. I have one and it has never let me down. You get what you are paying for, its not a gun I anticipate passing down to my descendants, nor do I expect to sell it in a few years and make a massive profit. Do you use it much then Cranfield? Have you put many through it? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 ...... ........ My advice for what it is worth is to stay well clear of these guns and invest your money into a second hand beretta,Remington or browning self loader . Harnser . or maybe a Benelli? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 This one again... There are quite a few about, it does look like the earlier ones had some issues with quality control, mainly regarding the chokes. Almost everybody who has actually had one seems happy with their choice, keep the chokes tightened up like with any multi-choke gun (don't think that because it's a cheap Hatsan it should be neglected). Don't expect it to work flawlessly with 65mm cases or 21g loads, some auto's do but they aren't really designed for it. It's considerably cheaper than other makes when new, they are good for the money, spend double the amount and of course you will get a better gun, or spend less and get a gun that works, is new and you won't worry as much about scratching it. Oh, I use mine on a regular basis for clays and have no problems or concerns with it, least of all regarding safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 I've got one and had no problems, most jams are caused by short shells stick to 67mm and longer and you'll be fine, as for chokes i personally think its down to user error not that they'll admit it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 (edited) The throwing 2 out of the mag is the problem I get with noth my Hatsan semis, BUT it's only on Hull Comp X cartridges that are well under the recommended 70mm length, they are shorter than any other cartridge I've bought. Would I have another, yes indeed, in fact I have another!, a Silver Select O/U. My first Escort is now 5 years old and has shot over 6500+ shells, I bought the later fast load version (without the side button) off here in case my original had problems but it's been sat in the cabinet virtually unused since I got it!. The choke problem is the latest in a long line of "Hatsan Problems" that get targeted, truth is that until a few months ago virtually no-one had mentioned having a problem with them and then someone posts and the anti-Hatsans pick up on it and make it look like an epidemic, loose chokes happen on almost every gun make look at the posts about it, it's common sense to check your gun over no matter what make. Edited March 25, 2012 by phaedra1106 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdSolomons Posted March 25, 2012 Report Share Posted March 25, 2012 I hear nothing but good things about them, buy 3!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
station Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 I've put 500 cartridges through mine now with just one jam - Which was about 5 mins before my mates Benelli Supersport did the same VFM - worth every penny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0145wirbelwind Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 I have never own an escort. I have shot load of them, some with problems and some shot fine. What it seems to come down to is SNOBBERY you seem to have to be seen with the big name kit and gun . I have seen people shoot far better and have as much fun with a cheap gun and kit than the person how has all the gear and on idear. Now the big question is would i buy one ,NO they just dont fit me as well as other guns. A gun has to feel right in your hands and they dont for me If it fits you cant go wrong for the money really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren m Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 had one , no complaints , went fine with 28gram to 56gram , no jams.only sold it as i needed some cash . as with all semi autos you got to keep the exhaust ports clean , i use the thinest pipe cleaners from a craft shop they work really well. they dont hold the value very well , so best buy would be second hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan-250 Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 (edited) I would recommend one to a friend, I like mine, it's the first gun I always grab now and with the stock spacer you can make it fit bang on, mines cycled 24 clay loads upto 32 pigeon ones faultless never had a jam. A multi choke steel proof gun with the fast load system for 300 you can't go wrong. My dad is even thinking about getting 1 now and he is a snob and like expensive name and toys. Edited March 26, 2012 by dan-250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deny essex Posted March 26, 2012 Report Share Posted March 26, 2012 Mine is near 5 years old , thousands of rounds through it, been used abused and not cleaned near often enough, no new parts or any serviceing other than myself stripping it down for an anual spring clean and check. Stands me in nothing now from what it cost and could give it away happily if I wanted . And I have owned beretta and browning sa's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted March 27, 2012 Report Share Posted March 27, 2012 Do you use it much then Cranfield? Have you put many through it? Thanks I shoot 4 or 5 days a week for most of the year and although I use different guns in different circumstances, the Hatsan must get 2-400 cartridges through it a month decoying, plus I sometimes do a round of 100 Sporting with it and 21gm and 24 gm loads cycle nicely. I bought it mainly for using with steel and fox load cartridges, so it gets extra use for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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