Big Marty Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 Just a up Date on my young lad he has admitted to taking a E. What the hell do I do now ?? Is This Addictive or what sort of thing is it, His accuse was his mates were making fun cause he wouldn't try it. My head is all over the place don't know if I should cry or crack,, He cried like a child and swore never again said it made him feel like **** but don't know if he his saying that for my Benifit though. What Now Folk...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 Personally I would say that getting angry will do nothing more than push him further away. From the sounds of it he tried it and didn't like it. I would explain the dangers to him and just try and reassure him that whatever his friends say, he is the clever one for not taking it. Peer pressure is hard to resist but just try and give him the confidence to say no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgguinness Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 As a father I feel for you mate, thank god mine are only young but god knows what I would be like if I found out. Pure MDMA is not addictive but the other stuff that the E will have been cut down with can be. E's can be cut with anything from aspirin, caffeine, meths etc. It's psychologically addictive but he won't have the withdrawal symptoms like alcohol or other drugs. It's not as addictive as stuff like speed or coke. What are his mates like? Are they regular users? How old are they/your lad? How did he say it made him feel? Jonathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprackles Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 Shouting doesn't work mate. On my phone so can't do a lengthy response but will get back later. My experience involves daughter with drugs, under aged sex, truant, going missing and ending up with social workers and police on the case. Very unpleasant. All I will say now is that yelling and shouting just pushed her back into bad ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewj Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 how old is he .? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 to be fair to the lad it sounds like he's truly sorry, breaking down and crying isn't an easy thing to fake. Don't lose your head chap, at least he's being honest with you. Don't make him feel that it'd be easier for him to lie in future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 he ll have to find his own path in life.drugs were nt as abundant in our generation.maybe he has learnt his own lesson mate.just tell him to be careful.don't drive him the wrong way.good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bry-M Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 This isn't the end of the world! You need to keep calm, if you don't he won't ever speak to you about such matters again for fear of how you'll react. Instead, ask him how he felt, did he have a good night on it? Was the comedown worth it? Does he feel any paranoia? The problem with demonising drugs is that if they are hyped up as the worst, most dangerous thing ever and this this and this can happen to you whilst you're on it etc etc, that when someone actually takes it, it's nothing like the hype! Bit of gurning, a buzzy and good feeling, have a dance, good laugh with your mates and then a comedown which is often far less nasty than a hangover! It sounds like both you and your lad need to educate yourselves about it more, it could well have been curiosity as well as the peer pressure, one of those things you sometimes convince yourself you need to try it to see what the fuss is about. In my youth i tried it, didn't like it one bit and never bothered with it again (don't drink or smoke either, although tried them both as well!) I'd say there is a very high percentage of late teens/early 20's who have tried a few illegal substances and no harm done. He may well do it again the odd time, it doesn't mean he'll end up an addict or moving onto harder drugs at all. If the 18-30 age group took an ecstasy pill instead of a skin full of alcohol on a friday/saturday night, the uk would be a much nicer place! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 as far as i am aware E's are not addictive, not in the sense that heroin and cocaine are. they can however be fatal. the fact that he has shown sorrow and remorse in his tears to me would seem a positive thing. he probably realises that he can't pull the wool over your eyes. i can't advise you really mate, but to me it would be a lot worse if he had lyed and you had to find out some other way. some could argue that experimentation of drugs in teenagers is the norm nowadays we all hope that they learn from these experiments. i dread the teenage years with my ten year old. atb aga man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Marty Posted May 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 how old is he .? He's 18. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeh Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 In all honesty this doesn't sound like E, he was probably was told it was, but I doubt it was anything close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Marty Posted May 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 In all honesty this doesn't sound like E, he was probably was told it was, but I doubt it was anything close. Do you mean a different mix or something different all together..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad93 Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 As said E's are often cut with something, im taking it this was in the form of a pill? Theres a new drug doing the rounds at the minute of which 5 odd people have died of in the uk in the last three months. It is more dangerous than some class A drugs as it has so many toxins in it and it isnt widly known about by medical professionals. Therefore I'd advise you say well you've tried it, i hope you dont feel the need to do so again. I'm 19 and ive been offered my fair share of substances, mdma, ecstasy, cannabis, skunk cut with cocaine, and ive refused it all. Personally i think if you need to use drugs to have a good night out, you're either not getting enough beers in or have a **** group of mates! Personally i'd look at trying to get your son to move away from his so called 'mates', maybe try and get him in with a different social group. all the best brad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 Recreational drug use is huge in all walks of life it's not the end of the world if people didn't like it they wouldn't do it. If he didn't enjoy it I doubt he will rush back to try........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-oXo- Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 (edited) This isn't the end of the world! You need to keep calm, if you don't he won't ever speak to you about such matters again for fear of how you'll react. Instead, ask him how he felt, did he have a good night on it? Was the comedown worth it? Does he feel any paranoia? The problem with demonising drugs is that if they are hyped up as the worst, most dangerous thing ever and this this and this can happen to you whilst you're on it etc etc, that when someone actually takes it, it's nothing like the hype! Bit of gurning, a buzzy and good feeling, have a dance, good laugh with your mates and then a comedown which is often far less nasty than a hangover! It sounds like both you and your lad need to educate yourselves about it more, it could well have been curiosity as well as the peer pressure, one of those things you sometimes convince yourself you need to try itAnd In my youth i tried it, didn't like it one bit and never bothered with it again (don't drink or smoke either, although tried them both as well!) I'd say there is a very high percentage of late teens/early 20's who have tried a few illegal substances and no harm done. He may well do it again the odd time, it doesn't mean he'll end up an addict or moving onto harder drugs at all. If the 18-30 age group took an ecstasy pill instead of a skin full of alcohol on a friday/saturday night, the uk would be a much nicer place! Best reply on this topic. Just be calm about it, after the come down he probably will not be doing anymore. Peer pressure is a big part of it. Also I believe there isn't really any "E"'s around anymore because E dealers got prosecuted as a class A drug dealer which lead to them being made from a form of MD and thats is even stopping now and they are more commonaly piperazine based. None of which is nice stuff. If it was me I would be looking for a new group of friends. Edited May 13, 2012 by -oXo- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatcatsplat Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 Recreational drug use is huge in all walks of life it's not the end of the world if people didn't like it they wouldn't do it. If he didn't enjoy it I doubt he will rush back to try........ Yup - What he said. A one off or occasional use of recreational drugs does not automatically mean a one way ticket to Trainspotting - He's tried it and didn't like it - Move on, be supportive and encouraging and try not to turn his return from a night out into the Spanish Inquisition - That will just make him keep his distance. Hope all goes well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bry-M Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 Personally i think if you need to use drugs to have a good night out, you're either not getting enough beers in or have a **** group of mates! Personally i'd look at trying to get your son to move away from his so called 'mates', maybe try and get him in with a different social group. Do you realise the stinging irony of your comment? Alcohol is a drug, the amount that die from it each year is shocking, not to mention all the illnesses it long term use can cause. There is a lot of over-reaction in this thread, taking drugs recreationally has no bearing on how someone will turn out or what they will do. It's like how strict orthadox religions view alcohol as the devils juice and it'll lead to you becoming a homeless drunk tramp the truth as you know is far different! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 Do you realise the stinging irony of your comment? Alcohol is a drug, the amount that die from it each year is shocking, not to mention all the illnesses it long term use can cause. There is a lot of over-reaction in this thread, taking drugs recreationally has no bearing on how someone will turn out or what they will do. It's like how strict orthadox religions view alcohol as the devils juice and it'll lead to you becoming a homeless drunk tramp the truth as you know is far different! Spot on. The fact that he told you and felt some shame says to me that he respects you and that you must have a good relationship with him, so hold on to that by not going mad. As I said in your previous thread, drug use is seldom a problem but drug abuse is, whether its booze, prescription medicine or illegal drugs. Drug abusers usually have an underlying reason for their actions and you son seems to me to be pretty well balanced so keep calm and trust him. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 Could you not just sit him down and show him a graphic film relating to drug abuse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bry-M Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 Just as an example, if your son had said he took a drug which slowed his reactions, affected his balance, slurred his speech, affected his cognitive functions, made him more cocky/agressive, then later caused him to vomit, the room to appear to spin then the next morning he had a horrible headache, sore eyes, dehydrated, feeling ill and sweating.... You'd either rush him to hospital and read him his last rites or... http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/208181-spinning-bed/ Swap stories about how ill taking this 'drug' has made you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 I think that you are overreacting can you tell us that you have never experimented with soft drugs telling people not to do things will never work as I see it if he says that he did not enjoy it that is the thing that will stop him from doing it again you would be a different matter if he liked it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 Also I believe there isn't really any "E"'s around anymore because E dealers got prosecuted as a class A drug dealer which lead to them being made from a form of MD and thats is even stopping now and they are more commonaly piperazine based. None of which is nice stuff. First of, try not to get too stressed about it. As a youth worker who has done a bit of research on both drugs, alcohol and young people`s use of them, I probably lean towards the above point of view. The new types of "legal" highs such as Jollees (Jolly green granules) MDAI, A3A METHANO, NRG2 &3 are more possible along with M-kat, which although now illegal, is stll about and are much more freely available, but they are causing concern in a lot of circles about their posible neuro-toxicity etc. That said, young people are in a strange place nowadays as they are in a social construct rather than being a child or an adult, they are in a place where they feel like a child at times yet are not empowered like an adult due to money etc. and as such they feel a need to belong to some group or other and this includes their peers. If that peer group take recreational drugs (legal or otherwise) then so the pressure, as he said, is on him to conform. These things are not a lifelong decision, but a way of coping with the pressure of being a young person and tend to be a passing phase. If it were me, I would explain that you have reacted to finding out badly, but understandably, because you love him and are concerned for him, and find some way of telling him you understand his need to conform and belong to a group and that you hope it is just a passing phase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazsl Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 (edited) been there seen it done it and got the tee shirt got bored with it never touch anything since so if you think your lad as a good head on his shoulders don't worry he'll leave it alone and if he told you it sounds like he didn't have a good time on it so it may have shuck him up a bit Edited May 13, 2012 by dazsl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAVAGE HMR Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 You have P.M. mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Marty Posted May 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 I think that you are overreacting can you tell us that you have never experimented with soft drugs telling people not to do things will never work as I see it if he says that he did not enjoy it that is the thing that will stop him from doing it again you would be a different matter if he liked it. Yeap I can tell you that, never took anything more than the odd beer. As far as over reacting when someone you trust completely tells you they have taken drugs you tell me how do you react because I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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