biketestace Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 Hi everyone,my question is............ Iv been offered a beretta 682 gold e trap gun with 30" tubes (fixed choke) and stunning adjustable stock at a very modest price,can i use this for sporting clays as it is,or will i need to convert it in any way ? Thanks for any help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 Only issue is the chokes might be a bit tight for sporting but easily sorted! http://www.teagueprecisionchokesltd.co.uk/prices.html could go for opening up to 1/4 & 1/2 or have it multichoked, trap guns tend to shoot higher but thats just a change in perception infact "sporterised" trap guns are quite popular! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 13, 2012 Report Share Posted May 13, 2012 What do you call very modest? :rolleyes: I use a 32" trap 682E for Sporting. You might want to get the chokes opened up - buy it and have that done later if necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Open the chokes up and bobs your mother brother. I used a 32 inch with Multi chokes as my sport until a month ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biketestace Posted May 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 (edited) Its had a 1000 carts through it,in mint condition,balance of warentee & £1100... I think its rude not to ?!!!!!! (Iv been quoted between £400-500 for the alteration...ouch !) Edited May 14, 2012 by biketestace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Its a steal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 That is a bargain. It would cost the figure you cite to have it multichoked, but why bother. If you must - get the chokes opened up to 1/4 and 1/2 or 3/8 and 3/8. About £50 to get the chokes done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 That is a bargain. It would cost the figure you cite to have it multi-choked, Teague quote £245-£327 + VAT and carriage if required to multi-coke both barrels, and includes reproof, but still can be done for under £300, £245 + vat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biketestace Posted May 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 That is a bargain. It would cost the figure you cite to have it multichoked, but why bother. If you must - get the chokes opened up to 1/4 and 1/2 or 3/8 and 3/8. About £50 to get the chokes done. Thanks gordon,where would you recommend ? would the barrels need re-proofing even after this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 No need to re-proof, although Teague do send them for reproof. Plenty of places in North West, but in your area - probably Doveridge - £40 a barrel. Bit dearer - down south. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 (edited) No need to re-proof, although Teague do send them for reproof. Really Gordon? http://www.teagueprecisionchokesltd.co.uk/choke_adjustments_&_specialist_regulating.html Choke Adjustment: This process involves boring and honing out fixed choke shotguns to the required bore size. IE. From 1/2 and full to improved cylinder and 1/4. It is advisable to submit the complete shotgun, so a pattern check can be made. All gauges can be adjusted, 10 - 12 - 16 - 20 - 28 - .410 This adjustment does not require reproofing. Choke Regulating: This process is regulating the chokes to a specific cartridge at a specific distance. It is mainly advantageous to trapshooters who know their approximate distances for 1st and 2nd barrel kills. The gun will be patterned at the required distances with specific cartridges. Again proof testing is not required for this process. Edited May 14, 2012 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 (edited) I stand corrected about Teague. I had it in my mind that they did re-proof them, even though it is not necessary. Edited May 14, 2012 by Gordon R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 I stand corrected about Teague. I had it in my mind that they did re-proof them, even though it is not necessary. They do insist on reproof for threading rifle barrels (threading does remove material beyond the proofed thickness and strictly requires reproofing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danie Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 Hey there. Very useful info. Thanks for sharing. I also have the same issue. Been offered an e 682 gold e skeet beretta in mint condition. But with fixed barrels 5/5. I like the gun so much. But need for various game hunting.. so i been advised to get a multi choke.. any advice would be appreciated although u have covered the topic above.. i would be willing to convert it to multi choke etc. Many thanks.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Danie said: Hey there. Very useful info. Thanks for sharing. I also have the same issue. Been offered an e 682 gold e skeet beretta in mint condition. But with fixed barrels 5/5. I like the gun so much. But need for various game hunting.. so i been advised to get a multi choke.. any advice would be appreciated although u have covered the topic above.. i would be willing to convert it to multi choke etc. Many thanks.. I know this is an old thread, but for your purposes I’d seriously leave it as is, and simply enjoy playing about with different weights and loads of cartridges dependant in what I was going to shoot. At average ranges you will find that trap loads through skeet chokes will cleanly kill game from pheasant, rabbits, pigeon and partridge. Two mates of mine shoot both early and late season pheasants with Gamebores Black Gold in game loads through skeet and skeet, and neither miss much at all. The thing is, you won’t do this though; I can guarantee that what you’ll do is have it multi choked or buy another gun which is, and then slowly over the years you’ll come to realise there’s a load of poop talked about choke, and you’ll stick in IC and IC, or 1/4 and 1/2, and that’ll do. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 What Scully said. Forget about chokes. Non of my guns carry much, if any choke and I never feel under gunned. You will find you kill more without it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob85 Posted January 1, 2021 Report Share Posted January 1, 2021 The old fella that taught me to shoot used a browning skeet gun, true cylinder both barrels, decoyed pigeon was 7s both barrels and if he was shooting flightlines or roost shooting he would put a 28gram 7 in one and a 32gram 6 or 5 in the other to get some longer range punch. He had no problem dropping a 40yard pigeon on his 2nd barrel. What it was really deadly for though was snipe and woodcock. Really wish I had bought it off him before he passed away! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 2, 2021 Report Share Posted January 2, 2021 Skeet and skeet is great for game, it's what many old guns have. Your cartridges will do all you need with the choke. I would never multi choke a set of fixed chokes, just not worth it. Enjoy it as is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted January 2, 2021 Report Share Posted January 2, 2021 Read Mike Yard Leys article on the duffers gun. After lots of testing Beretta skeet and 1/4 in a gun of similar age proofed the best at standard driven game. I use IC and 1/4 with most of my novice game clients who need a rental gun and it works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danie Posted January 2, 2021 Report Share Posted January 2, 2021 17 hours ago, Scully said: I know this is an old thread, but for your purposes I’d seriously leave it as is, and simply enjoy playing about with different weights and loads of cartridges dependant in what I was going to shoot. At average ranges you will find that trap loads through skeet chokes will cleanly kill game from pheasant, rabbits, pigeon and partridge. Two mates of mine shoot both early and late season pheasants with Gamebores Black Gold in game loads through skeet and skeet, and neither miss much at all. The thing is, you won’t do this though; I can guarantee that what you’ll do is have it multi choked or buy another gun which is, and then slowly over the years you’ll come to realise there’s a load of poop talked about choke, and you’ll stick in IC and IC, or 1/4 and 1/2, and that’ll do. 🙂 Really apreciated.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danie Posted January 2, 2021 Report Share Posted January 2, 2021 So good to have this advice before purchasing the gun.. i did not mention that i am a beginner in game hunting.. but managing to kill birds quite good with a gun my friend borrows me.. some of the terms u use i am not familiar with.. this guns barrels are both 5/5 . Seller suggested also to use cartridges to make the gun able to hunt game.. 5 hours ago, figgy said: Skeet and skeet is great for game, it's what many old guns have. Your cartridges will do all you need with the choke. I would never multi choke a set of fixed chokes, just not worth it. Enjoy it as is Many many thanks ! 2 hours ago, welshwarrior said: Read Mike Yard Leys article on the duffers gun. After lots of testing Beretta skeet and 1/4 in a gun of similar age proofed the best at standard driven game. I use IC and 1/4 with most of my novice game clients who need a rental gun and it works ✌✌thank you ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danie Posted January 2, 2021 Report Share Posted January 2, 2021 Also another issue if you have the kindness.. seller can get me extra beretta barrels (multi choke) that match this gun. I did read above that this may affect the gun shooting a bit higher , what would you suggest regarding extra barrels? I do realise from what you all wrote that they are not essential since i can game hunt with the skeet gun as it is.. but lets say i wish to purchase them also as an option. Would that be wise to have also? Will it affect the gun itself ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted January 2, 2021 Report Share Posted January 2, 2021 S/S is skeet and skeet so same choke in both barrels. Usual system is cyl for no choke cylinder same as bore of the gun. Then S or more common is SK for skeet then we get imp cyl for improved cylinder which is also skeet then imp improved after this mod for modified, then imp mod for improved modified and onto full. They can also use a numbered system too, which is usually numbers 1 through 5 1 being full 5 being cylinder. Just now, figgy said: S/S is skeet and skeet so same choke in both barrels. Usual system is cyl for no choke cylinder same as bore of the gun. Then S or more common is SK for skeet then we get imp cyl for improved cylinder which is also skeet then imp improved after this mod for modified, then imp mod for improved modified and onto full. They can also use a numbered system too, which is usually numbers 1 through 5 1 being full 5 being cylinder. Multi choke barrel is nice to have as an extra. Or in place of the skeet barrels. You can put whatever chokes you want in then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danie Posted January 2, 2021 Report Share Posted January 2, 2021 What do you think about getting an extra set of multi choked barrels anw ? This gun has both barrels at 5... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 2, 2021 Report Share Posted January 2, 2021 Additional barrels should not affect how high a gun shoots, unless the top rib is raised on one set of barrels and not the other. How much for the extra barrels? At £300, I would buy them. More than that, I would leave them. If you buy them, make sure they fit straight on and so does the forend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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