-ben- Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 Hi i am applying for my fac ive had a shotgun certificate for 3 years. im currently 18 and i have shot 17hmr 22lr and .223 i have land that is used for .270 but unsure if its been checked or shot on open licence, the land is best shot from the high seat with a cf but should be fine with rf's. i was wondering what calibres to put down in my application other than 22lr/17mr as there are a number of foxes on the land ive had 3 in the past month whilst out pigeon shooting and get a number of calls from the farmer to say that there after his turkeys and chickens can i come deal with them. any advice would be appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanl50 Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) Hi i am applying for my fac ive had a shotgun certificate for 3 years. im currently 18 and i have shot 17hmr 22lr and .223 i have land that is used for .270 but unsure if its been checked or shot on open licence, the land is best shot from the high seat with a cf but should be fine with rf's. i was wondering what calibres to put down in my application other than 22lr/17mr as there are a number of foxes on the land ive had 3 in the past month whilst out pigeon shooting and get a number of calls from the farmer to say that there after his turkeys and chickens can i come deal with them. any advice would be appreciated As it is your first FAC application no doubt it will be a closed FAC, as for calibres you have choice other than those mentioned (.22-.17HMR) .222 .223 or .243, either one of them is suitable for foxes it will be up to you to convince your FEO of your requirements, I would opt for the .243 as it will cover you for foxing with the added bonus being suitable for deer as well Alan Edited November 5, 2012 by Alanl50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-ben- Posted November 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 I would like to have a .243 theres plenty of roes and muntjac down there havent been down there yet and not seen one. would they grant one on a first application ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 90 Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 If you get a permission slip signed for Deer you should be ok for .243 but they may impose a mentoring condition. Go for .22lr .17Hmr + .243 & don't forget Mods for each ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-ben- Posted November 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 ile ask im sure if i control the foxes he wont mind the odd deer. ive got mods down on the application form Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted November 5, 2012 Report Share Posted November 5, 2012 If you get a permission slip signed for Deer you should be ok for .243 but they may impose a mentoring condition. Go for .22lr .17Hmr + .243 & don't forget Mods for each ! This. If you have permission, which is your good reason, they cannot refuse you, but they may impose a mentoring condition either before granting the certificate or for a certain period of time after. Most forces give a closed certificate at first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-ben- Posted November 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2012 How does the mentoring condition work ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 (edited) How does the mentoring condition work ? Two ways: The police want you to go out with a FAC holder who will teach you how to shoot safely, and when they're satisfied your safe they tell the police and they'll grant you a certificate. The other way which is a little too common is where you need to be accompanied by another FAC holder for a certain period of time (3 months, 6 months etc, the time they choose can vary) while you shoot your gun that's got the mentor condition. The mentor would typically be expected to have similar rifle to what your applying for - i.e if you ask for a .270 they aren't going to be happy if your mentor only lets you have a go with a .22lr. Edited November 9, 2012 by bedwards1966 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Lodge Posted November 9, 2012 Report Share Posted November 9, 2012 (edited) I was given .308 with mentor on my first application, so if you have the permission and the justification, it shouldn't be an issue. Before anyone mentions it, i'm not saying he should get a .308, just not to hold back asking for the larger caliber if he has a need for one. Although nerve wracking have a good chat about it with your FEO and mention the high chair and back stops. Good luck. Edited November 9, 2012 by White Lodge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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