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We walk our dog off the lead, and mainly on public footpaths.

Now where we walk him is straight through the middle of a medium sized mixed partridge and pheasant shoot.

We do eveything we can to stop him from chasing birds, but being a JRT it is just in the blood, :good: and on the odd occasions he does go after one but they <just> get away.

 

Luckily, he has never caught one.

Having seen what happens to rats and rabbits there is no doubt whatsoever it would result in fairly instant death (of the bird!)

But, if he did, and the bird was on the public footpath, what are legal implications of him killing a game bird whilst off the lead?

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Is the dog always on the footpath when chasing the birds? If he steps off the footpath he would be on private land and I know of more than one person who has had a dog shot by a gamkeeeper because it was chasing (not even killing) game birds. I'd be careful when you are walking through the shoot. If nothing else if your dog does get shot it will be a bit late to prove you were within your rights on the footpath.

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Shooting someones dog :lol::good:

Make the owner pay for the damages, theres no need to break the law or get yourself into trouble with the rspca or shoot an animal because of its wreckless owner. Just call the police count up your lost animals (which would be shot anyway) add up the bill and forward it.

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Stuart I have the same predicament, my two JRT's are nearly 4 now and have been beating since they were about 3 months old :good:

 

At this time of year they can be very difficult as the birds don't fly that strongly they can look wounded and like the dogs stand a chance of catching them. One of mine is spot on and as soon as you say leave will stop chasing and come back. the other one won't. I beat on the estate where I walk them and to save embarrasment they go on leads where I suspect they are most likely to see birds and when they do see birds they get told to sit and calm down.

Its a close thing and depends on the terrier whether they simply chase till there is nothing left to chase and ignore you or whether they put the bird up and come back to your call. If you've got one that disappears and won't come back till its ready then its tricky and i'd keep it on the lead this early in the season and then later on start letting him off more so he gets more use to birds.

Mine do catch the odd one not often but it does happen and have even been known to catch rabbits while on the lead :lol:

 

keepers do disapear the odd one but in my experience its **** keepers that do it and its only likely when the dog is on its own. To shoot the dog when you're there would get them into a whole heap of trouble.

 

Good luck though you're going to need it :lol:

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Please don't start the whole shooting dogs thing again. It can only be done as a last resort. If the owner is there and is recovering the dog then it is illegal for anyone, keeper or not to shoot it.

 

Surely it would be easier to keep your dogs onleads while there is game around, or teach them to stop when they flush something.

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I don't think there is any chance of him being shot, it just isn't like that round my way, if it was I would just take the 6.5 with me when we went out (joke) :good:

 

I know other owners whose dogs have had the odd bird, but as I know how hard these peole work to get the birds ready for guns, and how much a lost bird would cost, I just don't like him chasing them.

 

Once thay have shot at and missed a few times they might get back in the cover where they belong.

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mimic

 

Unfortunatley, the problem doesnt end with a few dead birds, and who pays for them. On our shoot, one wood has one boundary with a public footpath Dogs wandering around or chasing birds cause them to wander to avoid the dogs. The birds wander onto another shoot and are probably lost for good.

 

Personally I feel that dogs in public places should be on a lead, no excuses. Even the best trained dogs can go off on one.

 

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We walk our dog off the lead, and mainly on public footpaths.

Now where we walk him is straight through the middle of a medium sized mixed partridge and pheasant shoot.

We do eveything we can to stop him from chasing birds, but being a JRT it is just in the blood, :D and on the odd occasions he does go after one but they <just> get away.

 

Luckily, he has never caught one.

Having seen what happens to rats and rabbits there is no doubt whatsoever it would result in fairly instant death (of the bird!)

But, if he did, and the bird was on the public footpath, what are legal implications of him killing a game bird whilst off the lead?

wot a stupid question stuartp get your dog on a lead rite away and dont spoil other folks shooting some keeper has spent alot of time raising those birds

cheers have a nice daykirky

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We walk our dog off the lead, and mainly on public footpaths.

Now where we walk him is straight through the middle of a medium sized mixed partridge and pheasant shoot.

We do eveything we can to stop him from chasing birds, but being a JRT it is just in the blood, :D and on the odd occasions he does go after one but they <just> get away.

 

Luckily, he has never caught one.

Having seen what happens to rats and rabbits there is no doubt whatsoever it would result in fairly instant death (of the bird!)

But, if he did, and the bird was on the public footpath, what are legal implications of him killing a game bird whilst off the lead?

 

 

You would be out of order Stuart, end of story mate :P

 

 

LB

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Kirkys reply was over the top, wasn't it kirky?

 

Read this tomorrow morning mate :D

 

Please

 

LB

yes lb as ever i got a little over the top my apoligies to all but i have helped and see all the hard work keepers put into there pheasants and partridges no one should let there dog rome free around them

sorry once again am away shooting pigeons cant get into trouble doing that

kirky :P

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not getting into this argument but. most of this is wrong.

 

ITs not important should a game keeper shoot a dog the result for them would be the loss of their game all together, the loss of their Fac and also some time in jail. not to mention compesation and legal fee's so if i were you i would advise them to think very carefully about the reprocutions before doing something so stupid.

 

Intentionaly killing a pet dog, Result upto 5 years in prison.

Conviction for animal crewlty / abuse , Result in your game licence being revoked.

Shooting an animal illegaly , Result loss of your FAC/SGC.

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not getting into this argument but. most of this is wrong.

 

 

Game keepers allowed Resonable force nothing more. The laws of trespace only apply if the owner of the dog intentional sent or escorted the dog onto the land if it strayed by its own you are only allowed by the law to scare it away. (resonable force)

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