john m Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 IMO 410 177 for better muzzle velocity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 I hunt with a .177 carbine too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English archer Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 (edited) You only get about 70 shots per charge though dont you You only get 30 shots out of the BSA, but I wouldn't change mine for anything. Edited January 29, 2013 by English archer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Even capacity wise then,the BSA is less than half the gun that the AA is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT SEARCHER Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 You only get 30 shots out of the BSA, but I wouldn't change mine for anything. That is only the peace of **** Ultra. The Super ten or the R10 will give you over a 100 shots. I get over 100 shots out of my BSA Superten Bull barrel in .177 doing 11.8 ftlb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pest popper Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 I had a air arms TDR and a regulated ultra and had to sell one on. I sold the air arms. Few things that swayed my descision. AA thin barrel and poor blueing. **** little safety (i just removed ultras one) AA 40 shots, ultra 75 (now 100 as ive converted it to .25 ) Then the bit that sold it, over the chronograph the TDR was awfull, one of the most inconsistent guns ive seen. I done a quick google and found i was only 1 of many with the same problem. Now i said i would never buy Air Arms again, but, yesterday a new walnut prosport in .177 made its way into my car boot. WOW is all i can say, needs a bit of a fettle, but should come out amazing. What are you using your rifle for by the way? Targets? Hunting? Rabbits, rats, pigeons ect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt the Pigeon Shooter Posted January 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 I'll be after pigeons and rabbits at around 30 yards. Just been into my local gun shop and they have priced up a scorpion multi shot carbine, BSA scope, silencer and a fill bottle for £550 all brand new. They have a .22 and a .177 in stock so I'm still up in the air about caliber size!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Matt, its kind of pointless asking for help and advice as to which to choose, BSA or AA S410, if 6 people say BSA and 14 say S410, and you completely ignore the replies and go to the gunshop for a BSA Am I the only one thinking I won't bother next time someone asks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pest popper Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 He might have went on personal preferance after holding them himself. At the end of the day both are good guns and will do the job with ease, but if you go into a shop and connect with one but not the other, your not going to buy the one that doesnt feel right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackinbox99 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 (edited) Another vote for the s410 from me. Ive had mine for 5 years and its been brilliant. I service it myself each year for pennies - a service isnt really needed, but i like to look after it. I find its pellet on pellet accurate at 45 yards no problem at all. I get more shots than i`ll ever need on a hunting trip. I find I just top it up with air every 2 or 3 trips. Ive measured mine on a chrono and there is very very little variation in the power output consistancy on mine. Ive got it set to 11.5 and after the first couple of shots it seems to settle down nicely using air arms diablo field 5.52 pellets. Mines a .22. I went for the carbine version as its lighter & easier to handle. Also you can shoot from a vehicle easier. No difference in accuracy, and the shot count difference is irrelevant really as long as you have enough for your hunting trip. The best thing I like about the s410 is that it holds its value. Looking at the for sale prices, they have hardly changed at all over the last 2 years! In fact, I could probably sell mine for virtually what I paid for it 5 years ago! Ive lost count of the number of rabbits, magpies & pigeons ive had with mine, and even now im amazed by how accurate it is. You just point, workout the hold over / hold under, and pull the trigger. I can hit any target from about 10 yards out to 50 yards without even thinking. The BSA has good reviews from owners, and not having used one much I cant really directly compare the 2. But, id check out things like resale, servicing, adjustment of power (to make sure its within the legal amount), number of shots and owners opinions before forking out cash. Edited January 30, 2013 by jackinbox99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo33 Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 He might have went on personal preferance after holding them himself. At the end of the day both are good guns and will do the job with ease, but if you go into a shop and connect with one but not the other, your not going to buy the one that doesnt feel right Thats a fair enough point PP, but the he could do that anyway without asking peoples advice. There was a thread on here along the same lines a while ago. The op wanted loads of advice, settled on a s510. I pm'd him with one on another site, total bargain, found the chaps email, passed it on. The op didn't even have the courtesy to drop me a pm and say thanks. After bending everyones ear about the s510, budget, bla,bla, went and bought a new HW100, He will know who he is . I just don't see the point in them asking for advice if its mostly going to be ignored. We are only trying to be helpful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 Matt, its kind of pointless asking for help and advice as to which to choose, BSA or AA S410, if 6 people say BSA and 14 say S410, and you completely ignore the replies and go to the gunshop for a BSA Am I the only one thinking I won't bother next time someone asks With you on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted January 30, 2013 Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 turbo i 100% agree with you mate, you tell them your own personal experiences and what for , if you ask me this thread has been a total waste of our precious time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Thats a fair enough point PP, but the he could do that anyway without asking peoples advice. There was a thread on here along the same lines a while ago. The op wanted loads of advice, settled on a s510. I pm'd him with one on another site, total bargain, found the chaps email, passed it on. The op didn't even have the courtesy to drop me a pm and say thanks. After bending everyones ear about the s510, budget, bla,bla, went and bought a new HW100, He will know who he is . I just don't see the point in them asking for advice if its mostly going to be ignored. We are only trying to be helpful With you on that one. turbo i 100% agree with you mate, you tell them your own personal experiences and what for , if you ask me this thread has been a total waste of our precious time :hmm: That's forums! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 You only get 30 shots out of the BSA, but I wouldn't change mine for anything. Not a superten you dont Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt the Pigeon Shooter Posted February 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Excellent thanks guys apart from the stuck up people who can't accept that I didn't go with their choice. After being in the gun shop and using the scorpion and the s410 I decided that the scorpion felt better and more natural to use and hold. How can anyone fault someone else for being more comfortable with a certain gun!!!! I asked for some advice and personal opinions, I didn't ask for you to choose for me though. I thank everyone on this thread for your help and opinions. All the best with the new year and more rabbits!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjpainter Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 no point shooting a gun you're not comfortable with! all the best with your scorpion, now go have some fun with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Excellent thanks guys apart from the stuck up people who can't accept that I didn't go with their choice. that is exactly why probably myself and 80% of people who gave their opinions to your question would feel like we have wasted our time,you asked for our opinions ( matt) and we gave them and i must say 80% gave the opinion that the air arms s410 would have been the better rifle,now if the BSA felt better to yourself then good on you,its your cash and you spend it how you feel my friend,but to then stating we are stuck up people i certainly think this was a bit harsh why did you ask for our opinions matt when you could of just gone the gun shop and bought a gun like you did .but to then slate the guys who feel like you have totally wasted their time well bud i personally think you are out of order to slate us all and i and probably the rest of the lads who gave their time and knowledge to you will certainly ignore any future posts that you decide to waste our time with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Perhaps Matt, you should have gone to the gun shop, handled a few guns, decided on a couple or three and then come and asked the opinion of the collective. As for stuck up, up yours too buddy! I'll not bother answering any future queries of yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted February 2, 2013 Report Share Posted February 2, 2013 Glad that you have found a rifle that you like,just dont challenge anyone with a 410 to a competition!! In time you will realise your mistake and I am willing to bet that if,in a couple of years time,you answer a similar post to your original one on here,you will advise the member to buy the 410. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsaben Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 BSA 1 - 0 AA Nice choice of rifle mate, welcome to the dark side! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted February 5, 2013 Report Share Posted February 5, 2013 Or put another way,bsaben, Idiots 1 Wisemen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 Or put another way,bsaben, Idiots 1 Wisemen 0 So everyone who owns a bsa is an idiot then in your eyes ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted February 6, 2013 Report Share Posted February 6, 2013 (edited) fruity read the topic from the start,, on this topic the s410 was the better choice of rifle to the op,but he ended up with a bsa i certainly see where bruno is coming from and understand his comment but hey dont take a wisemans talk as holy i think his comment was aimed at the op,,not bsa owners,but seemed to touch your nerve Edited February 6, 2013 by evo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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