The Ghost Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 (edited) I am looking for a break barrel spring HW air rifle, I want something I can pick up and shoot the odd crow, pigeon, rabbit or magpie around some fields/farms. Don't want to be bothered with pre-charge. Want to spend around £250 for a nice gun and scope. Located around the fens (Cambridgeshire) It’s been many years since I had an air rifle and must admit this is proving harder to pick than my shotgun. What can you advise on what I should get or Look for, I have asked some PW members and they said open it up on the forum…..so please help end my confusion Edited January 31, 2013 by The Ghost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT SEARCHER Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Have a look on GUNWATCH or you will find loads on GUNSTAR. or GUN TRADER. You will get a very nice HW 77 HW97 HW80 for that money. BSA Superstar or Goldstar fixed barrel underlever. You might even get a Theoben or a Air Arms TX200 bit heavy. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 The HW77 and 97 are underlever, and considerably heavier. The 90, 80, 95, are break barrel, and a fair bit lighter Now, I can't speak as to the break barrel ones, as I've got a 77k in .22. Over 25 years old, lived in a barn for most of that time, and it still hammers pellet onto pellet at 35 yards. They do build a good gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evo Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 well i knew it wouldn,t be long,,not gonna bother anymore wasting my time giving advice,,sorry op no offence meant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT SEARCHER Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 well i knew it wouldn,t be long,,not gonna bother anymore wasting my time giving advice,,sorry op no offence meant ???? Whats the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost Posted January 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 (edited) I had never heard of GUNSTAR so thanks for that...saw this http://www.gunstar.c...e-gs117326.aspx What your opininions on above or the one below. http://www.gunstar.co.uk/Air-Rifles/Weihrauch-HW-99-S-gun-for-sale-gs96752.aspx Edited January 31, 2013 by The Ghost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Gunstar is just another website for trade / private sellers Some are good, some are ... not so good. Another one (but a lot smaller) is www.ukgunroom.com and as nightsearcher said, www.guntrader.co.uk Something to consider is that any local gunshops might not advertise second-hand air rifles on the various websites, so a few phone calls might be worth your time. As to calibre ... you could open a huge argument. I shoot .22, some hate that, and love .177. I find that 177 pellets are a bit too fiddly for my ham-fisted approach, especially if its cold, or I'm wearing gloves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost Posted January 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Thanks for advice Robiep, I always used .22 but am open to advice on .177 things have changed since I had my last one. I can't believe how many different air guns I have seen & still can't tell if it will do the job I want it for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 (edited) ? ??? Whats the problem. Another thread asking for opinions in choosing between a AirArms and a BSA. Two thirds of the replies positively in favour of the AirArms...so the OP goes out and buys a BSA. Just seemed a bit pointless asking and even more pointless replying! Edited January 31, 2013 by -Mongrel- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Absolutely any air rifle that is putting out 10+ ft/lbs, with a scope of 4* magnification will be perfectly sufficient to kill pigeons, rabbits, jackdaws, magpies or crows at 35 yards. the main thing is that the gun is consistent with pellet placement. The biggest limitation on most air rifles is the Mk I human squeezing the trigger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT SEARCHER Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Ho well thats Forums for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost Posted January 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Hi Mongrel, I have not owned an air rifle for 40 years and have no idea what you are talking about. In your opinion has anything changed in that time, that is my point....I need help. I am a wizzzzard fixing PCs thats my job, and no question is ever to silly to answer for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Basically, somebody asked on a thread the other week about recommendations for an air rifle. They wanted to choose between a BSA and Air Arms. Most recommended Air Arms. The person who originally asked went and got a BSA. Some people are in a bit of a huff, they seem to forget that their opinions are only that - opinions. Now, my opinions : Weihrauch : Heavy, but well engineered. Possibly even over-engineered. With moderate care, it'll still be dropping rabbits when you're boxed up. BSA : I don't like them. Quality took a big drop a few years ago, now made in Spain by Gamo. You pay a premium for the name Air Arms : never shot one. Heard good things though That's not gospel, same as my view on pellets. I'm sure someone reading this has a recent BSA that has fired 20,000 pellets, and is still perfect. I'm sure someone will have had a dog of a Weihrauch, too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIGHT SEARCHER Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 (edited) Have a look at Hatsans Web sight very good guns for the money. I have two a PCP AT44 10 W its excellent. And a springer 1000s Striker in .25 cal again excellent for the money. On Gunstar page 5 Air Rifles Hatsan Dominator fixed barrel underlever and the SAS system for very low recoil. That makes them very accurate. Very nice gun for £185 with scope. good luck. Edited January 31, 2013 by NIGHT SEARCHER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgguinness Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 (edited) Well I had a HW80k for years. It was a break barrel rifle, and it was spot on. The quality is top notch. Some say a little heavy, but I personally found it ok. There was a bit of a twang from the spring, but its well known and many folk offer kits to resolve it. Apparently they were designed for FAC power, so are over engineered. Mine was in .22 flavour. As said, it was easier for my sausage fingers to load. If an HW80 was good enough for the late great John Darling then it was good enough for me. Regrettably I sold it to fund a .22 rimmy purchase and I wish I hadn't. I too as a youngster had a BSA Meteor, and an Air Sporter, and found them ok, but have read (not experienced personally) some issues with the later BSA's. Never shot an Air Arms, but have always fancied a TX200HC as I remember reading about them when first came out as a kid. Kind regards Jonathan Edited January 31, 2013 by jgguinness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost Posted January 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Thanks lads, well explained Robbiep, I thought I had offended someone and started looking for a 410. Honestly I am thick as *hit and need some simple advice/opinions that's all Just looked at Hatsons as well so thanks. I shot my first 50 bag of Pigeon in a barn aged twelve with a BSA, and spent many school holidays at our local dump shooting rats. I have a use for a good air rifle and think shooting rabbit with my 12 bore "over kill" I have seen loads on here and have no idea what it will do. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottoj18 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 The barn store in ryston is reopening at the end of the month, (by the stutley brothers) there putting in a air gun range to try the gun befor you pay. I'd get down there and spend time talking and trying to make sure your happy ... Things like gun star are good if you know what your looking for good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost Posted January 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 Many thanks Scottoj18 thats good news, I started looking before christmas so it may be time to get out and try some out. I will keep looking on here as you often see other airgunners getting rid to upgrade. If nothing turns up I will put a wanted advert on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottoj18 Posted January 31, 2013 Report Share Posted January 31, 2013 (edited) Also you say no to pcp but. I found if you dont have a bottle or a pump To fill the gun. You go to the shop put a quid in the charity tin have a chat with the guys working there others in the shop it's a good way to get ti know others and advice from local people that know what there on about. Plus you tend to get a discount then get the tank lol Edited January 31, 2013 by Scottoj18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost Posted February 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Weihrauch .22 or .177 is the way I will go, sorry BSA as much as I love you. I don't consider myself thick when it comes to guns (ex royal marine) but air rifles have left me totaly confused. I entered the debate Pump or Auto on here, as it was about my level but you airgunners must be up all night considering all the options. Has anyone got or knows of anyone selling a Weihrauch that I could buy.....so I can eat some rabbit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED BEARD Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 there are a lot of good guns available,i've got a very nice hw95 you can have for £230,trouble is i'm a bit to far away in nottinghamshire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ghost Posted February 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Depends on what part you live, I am in March Cambridgeshire how far is that from you Red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Rizzini Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 hw80 all the way Think I even have a couple of tune up disc lying around for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED BEARD Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 Depends on what part you live, I am in March Cambridgeshire how far is that from you Red its about 80 miles with google map Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgguinness Posted February 1, 2013 Report Share Posted February 1, 2013 I would have another HW80K in a heart beat, cracking rifle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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