CaptainBeaky Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 http://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?salelot=A1216+++1599+&refno=++105805&saletype= Bit gorgeous that... Ooooo..... Pretty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrumbag Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 Ooooo..... Pretty! Would be nice to have an empty slot eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalahari Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 Pity it is made the wrong way round! David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 I sold mine for 150 quid, mind you it wasn't in as good condition as that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impala59 Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 I missed a ccouple in the last Holts auction from the same source, a Remington model 31 and an Ithaca 37 (1937), although that was a bit of a ringer with non matching barrel and other parts. Went for silly money though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrumbag Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 I sold mine for 150 quid, mind you it wasn't in as good condition as that! That's not a lot! Was it S2 or S1? I missed a ccouple in the last Holts auction from the same source, a Remington model 31 and an Ithaca 37 (1937), although that was a bit of a ringer with non matching barrel and other parts. Went for silly money though! Yeah I think anything old / collectable is being bought up and going Stateside with the exchange rate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 S1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrumbag Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 S1. It would be a shame to crimp tubes you didn't have to but I'm a little wary of going to plod and saying I want another S1 pump "just because" (Doubt I'd trade in the Benelli as I just like it) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 It would be a shame to crimp tubes you didn't have to but I'm a little wary of going to plod and saying I want another S1 pump "just because" (Doubt I'd trade in the Benelli as I just like it) No need to crimp if you can show good reason. Different calibers was deemed good enough reason back in the handgun days; don't know if it still applies. Collector status is also deemed good reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPCarter Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 I've joined Pump Club for a second time with a composite Mossberg 500 26" in 20 bore to go with my wooden 410 version. The 410 has a standard barrel and the Hushpower moderated one. I might get a 20g Hushpower barrel at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 Turned down a cased and mint example of one of these some years ago in favour of a mint and cased Diamond Grade. My mistake. https://www.guntrader.uk/guns/shotguns/winchester/pump-action/410-gauge/model-42-160929104913004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impala59 Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 Very nice and very expensive now, these are fine guns made to last forever. I turned down a similar Remington thinking i would never use it, pots of money now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 http://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?salelot=A1216+++1599+&refno=++105805&saletype= Bit gorgeous that... I had a look at that when it was sold at the last auction. The buyer put it back in because it's only above 24" if the compensator is included. The stock is fantastic though and it points really well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrumbag Posted November 24, 2016 Report Share Posted November 24, 2016 I had a look at that when it was sold at the last auction. The buyer put it back in because it's only above 24" if the compensator is included. The stock is fantastic though and it points really well. Interesting, so how does this legally stand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted November 25, 2016 Report Share Posted November 25, 2016 It's a s1 because of capacity but not because of barrel lemgth. The brake is permanently fixed so it would meet the 24" requirement if it were restricted. That's why the buyer didn't get a refund and has put it back in this auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrumbag Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 It's a s1 because of capacity but not because of barrel lemgth. The brake is permanently fixed so it would meet the 24" requirement if it were restricted. That's why the buyer didn't get a refund and has put it back in this auction. Actually as a pump with less than 24" barrel I think it would be S5... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impala59 Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 Back in the day, I had a SPAS 12 with a 21" barrel and a brazed on Cutts compensator of 3.5" this passed proof as a 24.5" barrel. Was purchased as such and eventually sold as such. Indeed the first SPAS shotguns sold were all 21" so all had an extension brazed on to comply with the 24" rule. I believe that only if the barrel addition was removable would there be a section 5 issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 Actually as a pump with less than 24" barrel I think it would be S5... That was the argument of the original buyer but I think holts are correct that it's barrel length is above 24", albeit including permanently fixed brake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 The Bretton-Gaucher G12 has a 15 inch barrel, but because the full length moderator which takes it to over 24 inches isn't removable it's still section 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Had a great day on the long siberia sporting clays at Bisley yesterday. Over 200 shells though my browning bps and new (to me) ithica m37 16 bore. Great fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impala59 Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Great to see more pumps out on the clay ranges, wouldn't it be something to see a pump take top gun in a major competition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 Great to see more pumps out on the clay ranges, wouldn't it be something to see a pump take top gun in a major competition Don't hold your breath! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted December 7, 2016 Report Share Posted December 7, 2016 I don't find cycling the gun a disadvantage even on pairs, but none of my pumps swing as steadily as a long barrelled over and under. They have a grouse butt there with some screaming driven midis. Eye protection essential! The 26" BPS was perfect for the job. There is a 16g bps in the next Holts sealed bid sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sco77w Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 Anyone know of a Norinco 1897 for sale anywhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impala59 Posted December 8, 2016 Report Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) Don't hold your breath! Just a bit of wishful thinking, love upsetting the establishment! Edit...........Wonder what it would take to get Mr Digweed on the stand with a pump? Now that I would pay to see! Edited December 9, 2016 by impala59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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