ironhorse Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 A little while back a farmer was crying out for help with a pigeon infestation on his rape, claims of thousands destroying his crop, the farm is near the south coast approximately 20 miles from me so no far but not close either, and as we all know footing the bill for a day’s shooting is down to the individual, it us who pay not the farmer, he allows us to shoot over his land and by doing so he gets a service for no outlay what so ever, but like any partnership it only works well if you work together and also have mutual respect, if one side does not play the game the whole thing falls apart. Ok that being said I contacted the farmer and arranged a visit to look over the aria, the first problem I saw was the size of the fields, one field was originally 3 fields and also there was very sparse cover but the farmer had put out makeshift hides, which were little use, 3 other fields also had little or no cover to enable hide, I had 5-6 visits to this farm but it just could not be shot and the numbers claimed well let’s just say I did not see anything like it, I also spoke to a number of other shooters who had answered the call and were also disappointed, after every visit I had there I would receive a text claiming that 500/1000/1500/even 2000 pigeons had got off the field where I had been, this really annoyed me this guy playing me for an idiot insulting my intelligence , other shooters also had received these texts after they had left, some guys had travelled distance. I asked for hides to be put in certain places but nothing was done. I have many years’ pigeon shooting experience and shoot regularly and being self employed has allowed me to shoot on days that others can’t, but although I love my pigeon sport I will not be insulted by anyone, if I treated men I employ in this manor I would soon be working by myself, so there is the Point. Needless to say mine and my two lads help has been withdrawn, he can continue to use the litter brigade, we will continue shooting where we are appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 If you don't like the set up at a farm, then you are not obligated to go there. All farmers have problems counting pigeons and rabbits, its a bit like double vision , only a lot worse. I just smile and nod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 You dont need cover to shoot pigeon , just stick your hide up in the field ! Yes farmers can sometimes exaggerate , but also there can be 1000s on a field one day and hardly any the next , all it takes is a change of wind direction or someone elsewhere doing some drilling etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironhorse Posted February 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 (edited) You’re both just stating the obvious; I am more than aware no two days are the same, and as to not being obliged to attend a farm quite right that is why in my final statement say as much. Edited February 9, 2013 by ironhorse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRamsay Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 You’re both just stating the obvious; I am more than aware no two days are the same, and as to not being obliged to attend a farm quite right that is why in my final statement say as much. Well Soz, Everyones not so as smart as you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigman Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 I'd be glad of the permission , just a chance to get out and enjoy is enough for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 I nearly went down to the farm your referring to but I smelt a rat bird scarer springs to mind BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironhorse Posted February 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 This comment just had to come up!! Well all I can say is you are prepared to sell out yourself respect in order to get some pigeon shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigman Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 I nearly went down to the farm your referring to but I smelt a rat bird scarer springs to mind BB But surely you have to be in it to win it .. Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironhorse Posted February 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 I nearly went down to the farm your referring to but I smelt a rat bird scarer springs to mind BB You did you self a favour believe me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigman Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 This comment just had to come up!! Well all I can say is you are prepared to sell out yourself respect in order to get some pigeon shooting. Care to explain alittle more , I'm lost if I enjoy just being out with a chance of a shot thats my look out not self respect lost just a over sized ego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 But surely you have to be in it to win it .. Right? wrong if I want to be a bird scarer I can do that on my own perm which is much closer and to be honest I ain't that desperate for somewhere to shoot BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 the farmer dosn,thave to do anything at all, just giving you permission is enough in my book the rest is up to you, and has been said you set a hide up in the middle of a field and shoot birds and i wouldn,t even try to rock the boat with any farmer what he says goes we need them just to have land to shoot on and if they ring you to have a go at the pigeons you go regardless of the amount thats there thats how you keep your permissions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigman Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 wrong if I want to be a bird scarer I can do that on my own perm which is much closer and to be honest I ain't that desperate for somewhere to shoot BB fair enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironhorse Posted February 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Care to explain alittle more , I'm lost if I enjoy just being out with a chance of a shot thats my look out not self respect lost just a over sized ego Do I really need to explain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigman Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Do I really need to explain Obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironhorse Posted February 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 the farmer dosn,thave to do anything at all, just giving you permission is enough in my book the rest is up to you, and has been said you set a hide up in the middle of a field and shoot birds and i wouldn,t even try to rock the boat with any farmer what he says goes we need them just to have land to shoot on and if they ring you to have a go at the pigeons you go regardless of the amount thats there thats how you keep your permissions If you are prepared to be pushed around and taken advantage of, it just shows lack of self respect which you can’t deny, end of argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 the farmer dosn,thave to do anything at all, just giving you permission is enough in my book the rest is up to you, and has been said you set a hide up in the middle of a field and shoot birds and i wouldn,t even try to rock the boat with any farmer what he says goes we need them just to have land to shoot on and if they ring you to have a go at the pigeons you go regardless of the amount thats there thats how you keep your permissions No mate I keep my perms by being loyal to the farmer I shoot for not for someone offering shooting that's overshot and me acting as a mobile bird scarer for the day BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironhorse Posted February 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 No mate I keep my perms by being loyal to the farmer I shoot for not for someone offering shooting that's overshot and me acting as a mobile bird scarer for the day BB Spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 if you want to lose or give up land to shoot on thats your perogative, i have a lot of common sence as well as self respect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 No mate I keep my perms by being loyal to the farmer I shoot for not for someone offering shooting that's overshot and me acting as a mobile bird scarer for the day BB i was replying to the oringinal post BB not yours bud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 i was replying to the oringinal post BB not yours bud oK mate no offence taken BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigman Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 Well Iv obviously got a lot to learn about the politics of a days shooting , Now off to bed , early start in the morning an all that nighty night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pboro shot Posted February 9, 2013 Report Share Posted February 9, 2013 i think wheather you are paying or getting a free day you should think yourself lucky to be invited onto land to shoot we need the farmers much more then they need us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rarms Posted February 10, 2013 Report Share Posted February 10, 2013 Wher abouts in Sussex was the farm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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