westmids1987 Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Just got back from doveridge,took a couple of work collegues along (enjoyed by all), however my bettinsoli universal MK3 (few months old and only 500 carts through it) double discharge 6-7 times but only with a paricular shooter? so what could be causing this?is it him or the gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemini52 Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 A double discharge can be a scary thing it happend to me a few times,it needs to go back to be checked,i have heard this happening if the safety catch is stuck in the middle between top and bottem barrels,it can be a pain having to take it back,but it is a safety issue,good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westmids1987 Posted February 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Checked safety seems ok, found it strange only happened with 1 person?bit perculiar,definatly shuck him up,think he was expecting it after 3-4 times,shot 300 carts through it 2day and 7 double discharges all with same guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 He wasn't messing with the barrel selector? If its stuck in the middle may cause double discharge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) bettinsoli are renown for it i know of 2 others thet have done it.....1st one hadnt been machined properly inside and there was a tab that cought somewhere on the other firing pin assembly when fired setting the second barrel off.....the 2nd im unsure what they found in it when it went back. Edited February 22, 2013 by SPARKIE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westmids1987 Posted February 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 He wasn't messing with the barrel selector? If its stuck in the middle may cause double discharge. No thats what i intitially thought but selector all way to right and not messed with,have to go back only problem it was bought from avalon in somerset so will have to be rfd-rfd and me without gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 I find it hard to understand why you continued using the gun after it double discharged. You say it did it 7 times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westmids1987 Posted February 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 I find it hard to understand why you continued using the gun after it double discharged. You say it did it 7 times! What would i do send it back to shop after 1 double discharge not being aware of if it could of being a simple problem as barrel selector not all way over?guy was expecting it after couple of times so can't personally see a safety issue?gun always pointed in safe direction,and like ive said only happening with 1 shooter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 It happened with my lincoln, second hand but not much through it, Started to double discharge, Was told by a guy that repairs guns for our local ground to take the stock off and give it a GOOD clean in the action, Its never missed a beat since, yet couldnt see that it was dirty...maybe worth a try before sending it off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 The fact that only one shooter suffered the DD's would suggest to me that he/she was causing the second barrel to discharge almost simultaneously. Was it definitely both barrels at exactly the same time or could it have been one immediately after the other? Is it possible they weren't fully releasing the trigger allowing the second hammer to fall as it was set? I confess that I don't actually know how possible that is but it seems feasible, otherwise what else could cause it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westmids1987 Posted February 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 It happened with my lincoln, second hand but not much through it, Started to double discharge, Was told by a guy that repairs guns for our local ground to take the stock off and give it a GOOD clean in the action, Its never missed a beat since, yet couldnt see that it was dirty...maybe worth a try before sending it off? Thanks for that will give it a good clean this weekend before next outing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 bettinsoli are renown for it i know of 2 others thet have done it.....1st one hadnt been machined properly inside and there was a tab that cought somewhere on the other firing pin assembly when fired setting the second barrel off.....the 2nd im unsure what they found in it when it went back. Bettinsoli are more renowned for not setting the second pin due to the springs being over strong. I wasn't aware of them being known for double discharge although you've obviously sen a couple I don't think I've come across it among myself and 3 others I have known to have Bettis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westmids1987 Posted February 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 The fact that only one shooter suffered the DD's would suggest to me that he/she was causing the second barrel to discharge almost simultaneously. Was it definitely both barrels at exactly the same time or could it have been one immediately after the other? Is it possible they weren't fully releasing the trigger allowing the second hammer to fall as it was set? I confess that I don't actually know how possible that is but it seems feasible, otherwise what else could cause it? Yeh both excatly at same time,one LOUD bang,might be coincidence but the only person it happened to was brand new to shooting,so think your theory may be correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 What would i do send it back to shop after 1 double discharge not being aware of if it could of being a simple problem as barrel selector not all way over?guy was expecting it after couple of times so can't personally see a safety issue?gun always pointed in safe direction,and like ive said only happening with 1 shooter? We obviously regard safety differently! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westmids1987 Posted February 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 We obviously regard safety differently! Not lookin for an argument but what safety issue is there?gun always pointed in right direction?what could happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 I can make my lanbervfan fire easily, thought it was a double discharge but was wrong. Not releasing the trigger and thick winter clothing often leads to it. Had the second trigger tightened up to stop it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabarm gamma boy Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 itchy trigger finger syndrome lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabarm gamma boy Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Not lookin for an argument but what safety issue is there?gun always pointed in right direction?what could happen? i think what tight choke means is the gun has a fault of some kind! there for its deemed as unsafe! i see what you are saying and i understand your point! but to be safe id have it looked at if it does it with you! because as said ur freind may be the fault and not the gun, double tapping the trigger unaware that he/she is doing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westmids1987 Posted February 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 i think what tight choke means is the gun has a fault of some kind! there for its deemed as unsafe! i see what you are saying and i understand your point! but to be safe id have it looked at if it does it with you! because as said ur freind may be the fault and not the gun, double tapping the trigger unaware that he/she is doing it Yeh i understand now,think im going to go with advice on here and give it a internal clean and if it happens again i know its the gun rather then user error and send it off thanks for all advice on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OvEr_KiLL Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 guys, do all bettinsoli double discharge? or is it a certain model? im asking because im going to save up for a diamond line..is the diamond line the same as the diamond? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_martin_ Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 (edited) Mine did it just after i bought it, second hand, took it back to shop and had it back after 1/2 hour. Apparently it needed a good clean. Did it again after about 2500-3000 cartridges. This time it discharged a 6" magnum, OK 2 X 3" magnums, now there's a big bang and recoil Took off stock and gave mechanism a good clean with carb cleaner followed by a bit of oil, not had any problems since. Gun often gets thorough clean now. Edited February 22, 2013 by _martin_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 guys, do all bettinsoli double discharge? or is it a certain model? im asking because im going to save up for a diamond line..is the diamond line the same as the diamond? No, they don't all DD. I had a Diamond X and know of 3 others, none of which double discharged. I think they are one and the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabarm gamma boy Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 the old betinsoli guns were common for this, was usualy a case of having trigger sears replaced but betinsoli cured this problem in there newer models or as far as im aware they did! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Had my Diamond line 4 years and many thousand carts through it and never DD'd, as others have said I think it was very early guns when first imported, good gun at great prices Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 Seen 2 betinsolis and they both started found 3-4 years ago. Our club has 2 and they have been fine. I seems to me to be a tolerance thing, must say I'm not a fan of the guns they look ok but don't feel great to shoot to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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