castletyne Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 (edited) This forum is just like every day life in this country now speak out and your gagged I was warned for just being borderline now ill probably get banned for commenting on the matter Now you dont even need to step over the line to be in trouble Edited May 23, 2013 by castletyne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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henry d Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/index.php?app=forums&module=extras§ion=boardrules We all signed up for it ... You must not post messages that are vulgar, crude, sexist, racist, homophobic, offensive, or otherwise violating any law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castletyne Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 http://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/index.php?app=forums&module=extras§ion=boardrules We all signed up for it ... So its offensive or racist to have an opinion on an important matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 Personally, I do not support gay marriage and do not think it's normal. Does that make me a homophobe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted May 23, 2013 Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 Personally, I do not support gay marriage and do not think it's normal. Does that make me a homophobe? Depends how you express those feelings,at one end you are slightly narrow minded,at the other end of the scale you are a screaming nutter who detests any one not within your idea of normal. So homophobe,or just uncomftable with something different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted May 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2013 Well the dictionary has this to say: -phobia noun 1. a persistent, irrational fear of a specific object, activity, or situation that leads to a compelling desire to avoid it. Hmm - I think 'irrational' is the key point here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted May 24, 2013 Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 "You must not post messages that are vulgar, crude, sexist, racist, homophobic, offensive, or otherwise violating any law." thats most threads closed then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted May 24, 2013 Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) Well the dictionary has this to say: -phobia noun 1. a persistent, irrational fear of a specific object, activity, or situation that leads to a compelling desire to avoid it. Hmm - I think 'irrational' is the key point here! No the relevancy is in the act, not the dictionary, see below. So its offensive or racist to have an opinion on an important matter Not per se, but voicing it may. Personally, I do not support gay marriage and do not think it's normal. Does that make me a homophobe? This is the relevant act... http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1997/40/contents The basics... (1)Every individual has a right to be free from harassment and, accordingly, a person must not pursue a course of conduct which amounts to harassment of another and— (a)is intended to amount to harassment of that person; or (b)occurs in circumstances where it would appear to a reasonable person that it would amount to harassment of that person. (2)An actual or apprehended breach of subsection (1) may be the subject of a claim in civil proceedings by the person who is or may be the victim of the course of conduct in question; and any such claim shall be known as an action of harassment. (3)For the purposes of this section— “conduct” includes speech; “harassment” of a person includes causing the person alarm or distress; and a course of conduct must involve conduct on at least two occasions. The two occasions could also be two people at one time I believe, unless it has changed recently. Edited May 24, 2013 by henry d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheasant Feeder Posted May 24, 2013 Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) The penny has just dropped! Now I realise why there's been a call to lower the age of consent, since I heard the issue being discussed on the radio I was at a loss as to who could possibly think it was a good idea. The only benefit is it avoids the need to deal with these rather "uncomfortable" cases seen in Oxford etc. Its about right for this country, if a law is a little to difficult to enforce lets de-criminalise it, first it was drugs, now this. Edited May 24, 2013 by Pheasant Feeder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted May 24, 2013 Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 The penny has just dropped! Now I realise why there's been a call to lower the age of consent, since I heard the issue being discussed on the radio I was at a loss as to who could possibly think it was a good idea. The only benefit is it avoids the need to deal with these rather "uncomfortable" cases seen in Oxford etc. Its about right for this country, if a law is a little to difficult to enforce lets de-criminalise it, first it was drugs, now this. Spot on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted May 24, 2013 Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 The penny has just dropped! Now I realise why there's been a call to lower the age of consent, since I heard the issue being discussed on the radio I was at a loss as to who could possibly think it was a good idea. The only benefit is it avoids the need to deal with these rather "uncomfortable" cases seen in Oxford etc. Its about right for this country, if a law is a little to difficult to enforce lets de-criminalise it, first it was drugs, now this. that wasn't the reason at all, it was looking at the number of cases hitting the media with regard to the Saville enquiry and later show business people where a lot of the girls involved were 14 or 15 at the time, Lots don't look it or act it is getting involved with a 15 year old pedophilia or not some girls at that age are very mature and certainly don't advertise that they are 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brin Posted May 24, 2013 Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) This forum is just like every day life in this country now speak out and your gagged I was warned for just being borderline now ill probably get banned for commenting on the matter Now you dont even need to step over the line to be in trouble gagging seems the order of the day and if this forun dosent like what people are saying perhaps the moderators should shut all topics apart from shooting but that whould be boring whouldnt it Edited May 24, 2013 by brin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted May 24, 2013 Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 This forum is just like every day life in this country now speak out and your gagged I was warned for just being borderline now ill probably get banned for commenting on the matter Now you dont even need to step over the line to be in trouble gagging seems the order of the day Ok simple question is this a shooting forum or one to be pushing Racist and homophobic views on everyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brin Posted May 24, 2013 Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 ok if you do dont like to read other peoples comment on this subject why read its like turning the tv station to another channel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted May 24, 2013 Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 can't you see effectively you are preaching racism and hatred on another race which funnily enough is the argument you have with them in the first place............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted May 24, 2013 Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 Ok simple question is this a shooting forum or one to be pushing Racist and homophobic views on everyone? its a shooting forum with an off topic section allowing the comments on ALL subjects (keeping them civil) including the ones that YOU consider racist or homophobic, note I said YOU consider that's your opinion of the subjects it may not be mine difference is sunshine I allow your opinion, people like you wont allow others and myself theirs. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted May 24, 2013 Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 This forum is just like every day life in this country now speak out and your gagged I was warned for just being borderline now ill probably get banned for commenting on the matter Now you dont even need to step over the line to be in trouble ok if you do dont like to read other peoples comment on this subject why read its like turning the tv station to another channel Alternatively, if some members want to post extreme comments on just about every sensitive social topic, that not only breach the Forum House Rules, but also potentially the laws of this land, why don't they go to other Forums that encourage this behaviour and post their views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted May 24, 2013 Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 its a shooting forum with an off topic section allowing the comments on ALL subjects (keeping them civil) including the ones that YOU consider racist or homophobic, note I said YOU consider that's your opinion of the subjects it may not be mine difference is sunshine I allow your opinion, people like you wont allow others and myself theirs. KW you're allowed it, you might be wrong but thats aside, its extremists that are the problem not the other 99% of the population. Its a bit like me blaming you for the actions of Anders Breivik because you share the same views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted May 24, 2013 Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 This forum is just like every day life in this country now speak out and your gagged I was warned for just being borderline now ill probably get banned for commenting on the matter Now you dont even need to step over the line to be in trouble I saw your post and I would imagine that it was removed as it was much closer to one side of the line than the other. It doesn`t need to be a specific person that is offended by your comments, or even a Muslim and if it was seen and objected to we go through the possibility of this site and the shooting world dragged into sensationalist headlines, especially the antis, as well as you being dragged off to court to try and defend yourself. Remember this is a public, not private, website that you do not pay for all you have to do is keep within the house rules. Don`t kid yourself I have seen the Protection from Harassment Act used in this way and it is not something you want to put to the test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flynny Posted May 24, 2013 Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 (edited) Having sex with a minor and rape are against the law in this country simples, it doesnt matter what your race or religious beleifs are, IN THE UK IT IS AGAINST THE LAW, If anyone is found guilty of this horrendous crime whether it be against a young middle class girl /boy or a homless/ disadvantaged girl or boy,the perp should pay the price for there actions, even if the girl/boy has given consent(refering to sex with a minor), IT'S AGAINST THE LAW!!! I know someone will pop up with the old" what if the girl is 16 and the boy 15 scenarios etc etc but that's a different story/topic The grown men and women who do this stuff have no excuse , if found guilty they should be dealt the full penalty of the law, It is no ones fault, it is the vile offeneders committing these crimes fault and no one elses, They cant blame it on the old " well thats what we do in our country " THEY ARE IN THE UK whether you be German, Scotchman , englishman or,from a long lost tribe in the middle of nowhere or even from outer space, THAT IS THE LAW in this part of the world ATB Flynny Edited May 24, 2013 by flynny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted May 24, 2013 Report Share Posted May 24, 2013 Depends how you express those feelings,at one end you are slightly narrow minded,at the other end of the scale you are a screaming nutter who detests any one not within your idea of normal. So homophobe,or just uncomftable with something different? Narrow minded or just entitled to my opinion?- Playing the devil's advocate here. If I stand in the street and shout and scream about it and incite hatred against gays and lesbians then both a nutter and a homophobe but if I am asked my opinion and give it in a quiet and measured way, am I narrow minded or a homophobe? Do we not think the pro badger crowd are narrow minded? The point I am trying to make is that if a person has a different viewpoint, does that make them narrow mined? Lastly, whilst I stand by my original question, if I have seen anyone being abused for their sexuality, I would be the first to defend them.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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