Dead Eye Dunc Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 (edited) Thanks for the replies. Although it's only a mile walk, it's a 10 minute drive each way (the walk is more direct over a few fields. Only 500 yards on public highway). This is just a curiosity as when we finish shooting and call at the pub, usually I only have one and drive home, as do most of the others, but on occasions when you get involved in conversations (and you get the taste) usually the good lady will come and pick me up (I know I'm lucky) But there is always the chance I will have to walk. I would not be paralytic, but would most definitely be over the limit for driving. I think the powers that be would take a very dim view and look at it as though if 11 mins of your time or having a drink up are more important than responsibly doing your duty with regards to your shotgun then maybe you don't really need one. If it's only a 10 min drive home (10min) lock the gun up (30sec) and walk back to the pub (4min). If the need for alcohol is so strong that 14.5 mins is un thinkable then walk home, lock up and walk back. You've got to ask what your SGC is worth to you. For me it's worth a lot more than a 15 min delay to a drinking session or just stopping at one. Edited to add that I like a few beers every now and then as much as anyone, didn't want it to seem like I was having a go. I just prioritise making sure I'm squeeky clean with regards to any possible licence issues above everything else. Edited May 30, 2013 by Dead Eye Dunc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoot and be safe Posted May 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 (edited) I think the powers that be would take a very dim view and look at it as though if 11 mins of your time or having a drink up are more important than responsibly doing your duty with regards to your shotgun then maybe you don't really need one. If it's only a 10 min drive home (10min) lock the gun up (30sec) and walk back to the pub (4min). If the need for alcohol is so strong that 14.5 mins is un thinkable then walk home, lock up and walk back. You've got to ask what your SGC is worth to you. For me it's worth a lot more than a 15 min delay to a drinking session or just stopping at one. Edited to add that I like a few beers every now and then as much as anyone, didn't want it to seem like I was having a go. I just prioritise making sure I'm squeeky clean with regards to any possible licence issues above everything else. As this is a curiosity, I do take a responsible attitude to keeping within the law. My SGC. is worth alot to me and i would never want to loose it.The advice you give is true and to the point and i hope others like myself follow it. Gun safety and security is the only priority. Some good advice given from everyone so far, a few differing opinions, always good to see other peoples views Edited May 30, 2013 by shoot and be safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 And I would imagine, should the car you were a passenger in be stopped and the police found a shotgun locked in the boot and whilst questioning you regarding ownership, happened to notice you stank of drink and appeared to be under the influence they may decide, quite rightly, to confiscate your gun and report the matter to your firearms licensing manager. It would not be unreasonable for your licensing manager to question your suitability to hold a SGC. I guess it would depend on how drunk but it shows an element of responsibility getting someone to drive you home. The main issue is gun in car while in pub doesn't go down well, if you look at the fact its a group of you in shooting attire its not hard to see how someone looking to steal guns would target your cars. Its happened round here after game shoots the dirty 4x4's get broken into so its simply not worth it. When we used to pop in for one after claying the guns came into the pub but that was only the one. walking home after a couple with your gun I think they would struggle with a revoke but after 10 its pretty likely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexcernui Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 tbh i would want to put any risk on losing my sgc. there are many "what ifs" with regards to have a beer and walking home with a gun. another one might be if a member of the public saw you with a gunslip walking home. the 999 call wouldn't be an honest view of the situation. more like " please come quick there is a man with a gun on the lane and he's drunk" gun in its case means no issues on renewal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 There is a pub near me called The Hunters Hall which I know is gun friendly, and during the season you often see a line of tweed-clad people trooping out after lunch with a sling on their shoulder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mongrel- Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 If you really are so thick that you can't understand that, should a police officer report you to your FEO for being ****** in a public place in charge of your shotgun would not raise questions as to your suitability to have a SGC then I despair and will say no more on the subject If you are so thick as to think that calling people names is an acceptable method of debate, we're both in trouble. So, for those in the cheap seat. It's not quantitative. Dirty Harry could walk up to you and me and decide that I was ****** as a newt and you'd maybe had a drink but weren't drunk, not knowing that we'd both been in the same pub and drunk ten pints each. All that proves is that on this occasion you held your drink better. Doesn't make you any more or less responsible does it? If you were driving, there is a clearly defined series of procedures and limits to ascertain whether you should be driving with that amount of alcohol in your blood. Doesn't exist elsewhere, and I'm not convinced that a Police officers opinion on this would stand up in court as proof. ' I believed him to be drunk your honour...In my opinion he was drunk your Honour', yes officer, but can you prove he was drunk? As such, an attempted revocation on these grounds has got to be open to challenge. As I said, 'I'm not advocating being drunk in charge of a shotgun...? How would you then go on to provide proof of his drunken state?' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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