ferguson_tom Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 My brother was able to use his NCB from his 125 bike to his car and it made a big difference to the insurance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclemicky Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 It's ok now weather wise but come winter are the roads he will be riding on still be ok , just a thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 He is going to get wet and cold on anything other than a car - good incentive to pass his test ASAP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 I have 2 cars a motorbike a d i still ride my bike to work through winter its only the coldest of days that i take a car probably 3 or 4 times last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onefulham Posted August 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 21, 2013 My brother was able to use his NCB from his 125 bike to his car and it made a big difference to the insurance.If you don't mind, who was he insured with ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marki Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Carol Nash allow transfer of bike to car. Ebike/ecar used to, don't know now, same with Hastings direct. Obviously the NCB cannot usually be on two vehicles at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentalmac Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Carol Nash allow transfer of bike to car. Ebike/ecar used to, don't know now, same with Hastings direct. Obviously the NCB cannot usually be on two vehicles at the same time. Yup, I found that most companies that offer both bike and car insurance would swap them without the whole "we';ll give you only 1 year out of your 5" ****. So when I insured a car at 21 I had 5 years NCB! :-). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopDown Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) My brother is 17 and recently purchased his first bike. A CBR125R. I am also a biker and tried to steer him in the right course. Bikes are cheap enough in themselves. I would wait until he is 17 and get a 125 rather than get him on a 50 and then lose money making the inevitable step up. He can of course complete his CBT now in preparation. The free ride is a great idea as well. Above all though and I drummed this into my brother - buy the right protective clothing and wear it. It is not cheap but you can have some decent stuff without paying the earth. As you have gathered from this thread people will lecture you senseless about bikes, usually without giving any helpful advice at all. Good to see you are taking an interest. Just like the other lads who offered - I'd happily meet up, have a chat about it and help out if I can. Edited August 22, 2013 by TopDown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Contrary to what might seem obvious low powered two wheeled vehicles are dangerous because they are so slow. Other vehicles will overtake them all the time on open roads and therein lies a very real threat. The other issue is inappropriate riding wear, falling off at any speed hurts so wearing decent gear is important. I've been riding over 40 years now and have worked with an award winning casualty reduction organisation which has looked into these issues so not just spouting for the sake of it. I'd never try to put people off the wonderful experience of biking but would urge them to consider something with enough power to keep up with the traffic flow. If it was my youngster I'd want him/her on a 125 minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onefulham Posted August 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Contrary to what might seem obvious low powered two wheeled vehicles are dangerous because they are so slow. Other vehicles will overtake them all the time on open roads and therein lies a very real threat. The other issue is inappropriate riding wear, falling off at any speed hurts so wearing decent gear is important. I've been riding over 40 years now and have worked with an award winning casualty reduction organisation which has looked into these issues so not just spouting for the sake of it. I'd never try to put people off the wonderful experience of biking but would urge them to consider something with enough power to keep up with the traffic flow. If it was my youngster I'd want him/her on a 125 minimum. If he does go for it , it will not be till he is 17 in a few months anyway so the advice from here and a helpful shop in Bedford is get a 125, other places recommended and they seemed good quality machines, Sym, he likes them or a peugeot, well to be honest he likes expensive ones even more, but his budget will be about £1700, he plans to keep for a few years then poss get half his money back at least towards a car, that is his plan but we all know about plans ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopDown Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 I don't know much about that specific brand but I wouldn't buy a cheap Korean import. Especially if he plans to recoup any money on it later. Is the £1700 for the bike only or bike, equipment and insurance? If it is for the bike only you'll be able get a decent Honda/Yamaha 125. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) my daughter is selling her yzf125 if you're interested? it's mint. also looks the teets but goes nothing like it Edited August 22, 2013 by Paddy Galore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Contrary to what might seem obvious low powered two wheeled vehicles are dangerous because they are so slow. Other vehicles will overtake them all the time on open roads and therein lies a very real threat. The other issue is inappropriate riding wear, falling off at any speed hurts so wearing decent gear is important. I've been riding over 40 years now and have worked with an award winning casualty reduction organisation which has looked into these issues so not just spouting for the sake of it. I'd never try to put people off the wonderful experience of biking but would urge them to consider something with enough power to keep up with the traffic flow. If it was my youngster I'd want him/her on a 125 minimum. when my eldest was 16 and went to buy his 1st bike a 50cc aprillia i was told by the shop owner (though not the done thing) was to have his bike de restricted so it would go 55mph his reason was that a lorry on a busy road would sit behind him at 55 but at 30 the speed of resticted 50s they would overtake him which was a accident waiting to happen, one reason i said to wait till he is 17 and get a 125 colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 If he does go for it , it will not be till he is 17 in a few months anyway so the advice from here and a helpful shop in Bedford is get a 125, other places recommended and they seemed good quality machines, Sym, he likes them or a peugeot, well to be honest he likes expensive ones even more, but his budget will be about £1700, he plans to keep for a few years then poss get half his money back at least towards a car, that is his plan but we all know about plans ! if the shop in Bedford is supa moto please dont get a 125 of them as they deal in cheep imports we made that mistake with one of my lads and what a mistake it was (though we have had 2 big bikes from them what have been fine) i would go 2nd hand and look at honda closely followed by yamaha colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biketestace Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 First off. My money was not wasted on Sym 50 & 125cc rev & go, Best value geared 125cc was the Yamaha ybr 125, If you book a cbt tomorrow, the dsa allows your nipper to use a restricted 50cc rev & go to complete the cbt training.. A de-restricted 50cc is illegal until he turns 17. A DL196 cert is issued which lasts 2 years.. Lets say then on his 17th birthday he buys a 125cc geared bike, my despair is this, who taught him gears, clutch & new braking controls etc ?? Iv lobbied for years to stop this daft loophole but alas to no avail. Treat him to a cbt for his 17th birthday & do it on a 125 geared bike, All the best, Bta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happypig Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 I think power two wheelers are the way forward..... Safe in the right hands and offer independence .... But it's three miles.... A17 yo should not break into a sweat on a push bike..... Get on your treader lad.... It'll be good for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old rooster Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Whatever sort of bike you guys are riding it really is well worth fitting one of our indicator warning systems, as leaving indicators on is a serious hazzard and very few bikes have self cancelling indicators. There is of course a flashing light on the "dash" but you really want to be focussing main attention at what is going on around you as you need to anticipate what the next phone juggling muppet is going to do and avoid them. "Twist of the Wrist" by Keith Code is a very interesting book to read! I cant mention the product here or it will be seen as advertising, which is a bit frustrating but I can understand the site policy on this. Not sure how I can put people in touch with the website? I'd be happy to offer PW members a discount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onefulham Posted August 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 I think power two wheelers are the way forward..... Safe in the right hands and offer independence .... But it's three miles.... A17 yo should not break into a sweat on a push bike..... Get on your treader lad.... It'll be good for you I have to say I do agree, he is part of the games machine online generation, they consider that exercise and his Mum agrees so I lose that battle ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harpoonlouis Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Electric bike, not test tax or insurance and just help you up those hills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remmy1100 Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 get him a quad bike instead then you can use it when hes off work for shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 funny thing about this thread is all the people saying 50cc scooters are dangerous but think he should take the push bike to work :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onefulham Posted August 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 funny thing about this thread is all the people saying 50cc scooters are dangerous but think he should take the push bike to work :blink:I did think that ! Surely a bit more lit up on a motorbike/scooter? I understand and respect people's concerns and worries over bikes and scooters, I was never allowed one because of parents fears and I think parents are even more risk adverse nowadays, I think he is a great sensible lad, just needs to be more outgoing and I think this would help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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