bobby t Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 if you check the hull website yoou can find the data on each cartridge they say which ones have the harshest recoil and what guns it is suited to (in terms of weight) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 That's right Baldrick. The Hull Special pigeon 32g load is a lot softer shooting that the Eley 32g HB pigeon. I do prefer the Eley shell though. The Hull pro fibre 28g trap cartridge is also softer shooting than say the Gamebore Whitegold XLR. Just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 I actually used the Eley HB Pigeon 32g round at the PW shoot at Bisley this last August. I can honestly say that is one of the fiercest recoiling cartridges I have ever used. I shot OK with it, but my God did I get battered about by it. I'd rather pay more for a softer cartridge, than go for a bargain load that cripples me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethevanman Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 guys in some way this remindes me of the good old days when we used to just stick cartridges in our gun and hope for the best, in some days beggars cant be choosers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starlight32 Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 Most of the guns on the syndicate I shoot have chosen to change to 20 Bores over the last 2 years. The reason being most of the gents are a little on the mature side and the lighter gun suits them better on some of the long walk ups. However I have noted we seem to be getting more and more runners as opposed to clean kills, so much so that last sat we had to drop a drive as we had spent some time on the last two looking for pricked birds! Now I am well aware that 28grms of well placed shot will drop all but a grizzly bear, but bearing in mind most of us are at best an average game shot, I prefer to take advantage of a little extra punch packed by 32 grms of Supreme Game in a 12 bore. I just wondered what the PW panel of experts think. My overall opinion of the magical 20 bore is- You either love it or hate it!!! Many a story is heard of the game shooter chucking his 12g in for a 20 and vice versa. I had one for a long while, but moved it on purely for one reason, cost of carts and no good for wildfowling. When using one primarily for clays, pigeon and game the cost increases rapidly over volume of shells fired. However I have seen some remarkable shooting lately on driven days with 28 bores. In a nutshell a 20b is excellent in the right hands as is any calibre. As for youngsters my son started 6 months ago (14) and he was ok straight on with a 12g but with lighter loads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted December 22, 2006 Report Share Posted December 22, 2006 I actually used the Eley HB Pigeon 32g round at the PW shoot at Bisley this last August. I can honestly say that is one of the fiercest recoiling cartridges I have ever used. I shot OK with it, but my God did I get battered about by it. I'd rather pay more for a softer cartridge, than go for a bargain load that cripples me. They do pop a bit, but they are fine through a heavier gun or a S/A. They are very popular in this area a lot of people use them, including quite a few on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 They do pop a bit, but they are fine through a heavier gun or a S/A. They are very popular in this area a lot of people use them, including quite a few on here. The HB Pigeon definitely weren't fine in the 7lb B25 I'd just bought, which had its first outing at Bisley. The gun needed fitting to me, but I got a real kicking from those cartridges. Having got the gun fitted perfectly, I still find them pretty uncomfortable to shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 Without sounding to personal Baldrick are you of the lighter frame? Us Norfolk boys are big ******* used to a mans gun with a mans load. Is your shoulder OK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethevanman Posted December 23, 2006 Report Share Posted December 23, 2006 I have a twelveyear old son who can handle 28grms through a 12 bore berreta semi. He is contemplating moving up to 30grms. He recons he is tuff enough . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldrick Posted December 27, 2006 Report Share Posted December 27, 2006 Whitebridges, being a born-and-bred Norfolk boy myself, I am not a small ****** either......... The shoulder's fine - I'm just a good enough shot to be able to use a 20-bore to lethal effect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevethevanman Posted December 28, 2006 Report Share Posted December 28, 2006 When my son started shooting he was beating me using a 28 bore with 17grm cartridges and I was using a 12 bore with 28grm cartridges And now he uses a 12 bore it is even harder to beat him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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