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I have a little wcs bitch pup (now 7 weeks old) who I am having to keep back till 6 months. I intend to part train her, as I feel that this is the best I can do for her but have only trained dogs I intend to keep. Has anyone got any advice as my feeling is it will be different to training my own dogs. What is wanted in a part trained dog? Thank you xx

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You could train the dog to appear in the next remake of the Count Dracula series.

 

Seriously though, sit and stay and come back will be all she needs up to 6 months. Anyone taking her after that will train her on to their liking.

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Agree completely with what Kent says, difficulties are that your part trained may differ from my part trained, the time and effort to get a dog to a part trained level outweighs the extra 100-200 quid you will get for the dog being "part trained". Better to sell as a pup or train up fully for the shooting field.

 

Most part trained dogs come up for sale purely due to trainers keeping a couple of pups back, running them on then deciding which one best suits their needs and so the other goes to clear kennel space. There isn't really a huge market for "part trained" dogs compared to pups/fully trained.

 

Hope that helps

 

Longy

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In my opinion a dog at 6 months old has only just reached a trainable age. I have a cocker bitch who is 6 months old. She sits, stops to whistle, re-calls, and retrieves a dummy to hand but I wouldn't describe her as part trained.

 

I would class a part trained dog as one that is ready to get experience working under the gun and/or only completed one seasons work.

 

ATB,

Lee

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Thanks everyone. I have to keep her to a minimum of 6 months due to a leg injury caused by mum jumping on her. I wouldn't be looking at putting the price up so that doesn't worry me. I don't think I can keep her to a year either to get her to a standard to take out shooting. Just want her to go with as much as she can in terms of training. Xx

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You aint gonna get a lot achieved it might not even be ready for formal training at 6mnths and wont fetch more money- certainly wont get anything for your time. Puppies are far easier to sell, part trained normally means 1-2 yrs

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My Mrs does most of the puppy work with any dogs I run on,up to 6 months old they just want socializing.

I don't even start doing anything myself until they are at least 6 months old.

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Just bring it on the way you would your own and sell it for pup price when she is ready to go.

 

If you've half an idea what you're doing you can't go far wrong up to 6 months.

 

I love the story of the guy who took his "part trained" dog to a well known trainer for assessment... the dog flew out the back of the truck and ran round ignoring everything it was asked to do to which the trainer asked "which ******* part is trained?"

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Brilliant story!

 

Her leg was injured when mum jumped on her at 5 weeks. Been to the vets and he said since she appears to have made a full recovery there is little chance that she will have any further issues, but that it would be a good idea to monitor her for the next 4 months. If there's no problem in those 4 months then she's good to go. While I could sell her at 8 weeks I am perfectly happy keeping her on just to be sure. She's a working cocker, was that what you meant by how is she bred?

 

I am myself a dog trainer (90% pet) but I also specialise in Working Trials and TD Rally. I've done a bit of gun dog but not much. I'm assuming most people who would want a 6 month old, somewhat trained, WCS will want it for a gun dog so I just want to get it right. My labby is now 6 months and I would consider her to be very well trained but again I am training her for Working Trials. And she's a lab, and the easiest lab ever. I'm convinced she was born in a sit stay. I have no doubt that this little cocker will be a much more challenging task! Add that to the fact that I am permanently keeping her sister so it's double the work, on top of the lab, mum and for some reason I also have a Chinese Crested who is trained in protection work. An entire dog training school, day care and home boarding set up to run. I never used to think people were like their dogs but I think I might be as mad as mine, lol.

 

Thanks for the tips everyone. She is a little vampire. She's the loudest of the bunch, and the one most people have fallen in love with. It will be hard to part with her, but I guess I'm not that mad! xx

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I wouldn't do anything with the pup (sounds like you have enough on your hands anyway! LOL). Socialisation (doesn't sound like that'll be a problem), call to whistle for food (name will be a challenge for a single dog in your environment), sit for food, learn her name. Some play retrieving so she has a desire to pick up and since she is the "loudest of the bunch" I would clamp down on any noise - it's the one thing I would be strict with because nobody wants a noisy gundog. If you can house train her even better, similarly if she is happy in a kennel too that is a benefit.

 

In doing the above you should have a well socialised and happy pup, past the peeing all over the place stage, happy in whichever environment she is likely to be permanently homed in and from a training perspective she is a blank canvas which is how most owners would (or should) happily receive a pup at 6 months.

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Fab thank you. I want to make sure she goes with everything she will need and no bad habits. She will be socialised, house trained, crate/ kennel trained too anyway. And I am definitely stopping the yowling, I need to grab sleep when I can, lol.

With regards to name, should I name train her to the name I've given her (Blaze) and hope that a new owner is happy to keep it? All of mine know their individual names as I practice sending them off separately to retrieve/ search.

Retrieve I will work on too :)

 

I also trick train mine, as I find this brings focus. Would you steer clear of this as it's unlikely someone taking her on as a gun dog will want her to know spin and roll over, lol? I don't teach paw until at least 6 months and the dog has some control or they tend to end up a punching menace. xx

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Leave out the tricks mate, not much call for it in the shooting field.

 

Teach her her name if you want, the new owner may keep it or they may change it. Changing a dogs name at the same time as its environment changes is no big deal.

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Lol. Well it all helps to build focus, although there is no practicality on the shooting field! Her mum has a fantastic knack for tricks, she's even been on tv.

 

All of mine are multi purpose, they have to come into schools with me and do demos, as well as work in a field. I hope to take my labby out shooting when she's old enough. I'm also doing search and rescue with her.

 

Thank you for all the advice on training up little Blaze, she saw the physio today and she is confident there is no lasting damage. Fingers crossed! I will keep everyone posted on her training. xx

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