babs2020 Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) hi guys how often do clean your 17 some one told me every 15 to 20 shots Edited March 2, 2014 by babs2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deiseboy Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 Hasnt been cleaned properly in 3 years and probably more before me and still shoots perfect with no spread in groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babs2020 Posted March 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 what gun is that mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deiseboy Posted March 2, 2014 Report Share Posted March 2, 2014 what gun is that mate marlin 917vs hmr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Hasnt been cleaned properly in 3 years and probably more before me and still shoots perfect with no spread in groups. This is quite irresponsible the 17hmr is not like a .22 the build up of copper in the bore will cause over pressure eventually as will the powder residue .You will be lucky to get a .17 brush through the barrel all I can say is it would be normal to clean some where between 50-100 shots and no more , Mine gets the bore snake through it every time I come back from shooting which is normally between 30 -60 shots . Deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 I put Boresnake through mine after every time I go out Shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 An emotive subject with usually strong views at both ends of the clean it - never clean it, scale. Many here will already know I cut my teeth in the target world, and gun care was paramount, that has stayed with me ever since; my guns get cleaned, and they work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 I say this a lot but you cannot spoil a gun from too much cleaning (in the correct way) you can spoil one from not enough. The only rifle that I own which can come out of the safe dirty without ant oil to be cleaned from the bore is the .22lr (not that I think cleaning it is wrong just the bullets contain a lube anyhow that I feel prevents corrosion to a degree and I often gab it in a hurry). None the less the .22 wont go through a brick of ammo without a clean and will always get a clean and a few zero / checking rounds before a major session. If a gun has gotten wet in the rain its a no questions full clean an lube, regardless of if its been fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbust Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 All my rifles/guns get a general clean and oil after every shoot, just to get the gunge out. The HMR gets a good scrub (wipe-out patch-out) every 50 rounds and the centre fire rifles, likewise they get a good scrub out every 20 rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dadioles Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Makes note..... Don't buy second hand rifle from Deiseboy...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Makes note..... Don't buy second hand rifle from Deiseboy...... Quite, someone could be in for a shock if they ever clean it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babs2020 Posted March 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 thanks guys so clean after every use not when you are in the field after 15 shots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telf Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 When I had hmrs they were cleaned after every outing the same with the moderator the hmr is a very dirty round and the crud that builds up is unbelievable. Clean it as often as poss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 thanks guys so clean after every use not when you are in the field after 15 shots Only clean in the field at the range running a new barrel in or if you have a mis-hap (like an emersion, pulled bullet head etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 As I have said above, everyone will have their own view of cleaning (or not) but I have never had cause to clean in the field! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marlin vs Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 I clean mine when the groups start to widen and then it takes about a half dozen shots to foul it slightly and make the groups tighten again, I recon about 4 to 5 hundred shots, thats what works for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenj Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 I run the boresnake through mine after every trip, even after a few shots. Shot some targets last week and had touching holes at a hundred yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeadWasp Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 My programme was a thorough clean (overnight 009, barrel down) for a new gun before first shot, then the first ten rounds each had a clean, and now a clean after every outing which is either after about a dozen shots or after condensation has been removed from bringing a cold gun into a warm house. Although a typical outing for me is around a dozen black flappy things I do carry a bore snake for a quick 'in-field TLC' just in case I have a field day. Total cleaning kit bill (rod, spear jag, brush, 009, oil, pro-shot patches, rod guide and bore snake) was a bit frightening at about £130 from memory!! Absolutely agree with the comment that careful cleaning won't damage your gun and although it is a drag it is good discipline to care for the thing that does good work for you. Dekers is right - there is varying advice - perhaps clean it when new, clean it when subject to weather, then clean it at what seems a reasonable interval to you...but DO clean it. Seems fair? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz1986 Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 I clean all my rifles and shotguns after every use!! I wipe down with oil and every week I oil the stocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deiseboy Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 This is quite irresponsible the 17hmr is not like a .22 the build up of copper in the bore will cause over pressure eventually as will the powder residue .You will be lucky to get a .17 brush through the barrel all I can say is it would be normal to clean some where between 50-100 shots and no more , Mine gets the bore snake through it every time I come back from shooting which is normally between 30 -60 shots . Deershooter actually a bore snake fits down it quite easily even, I give it a pull through of one maybe every 100 rounds, but I wouldnt consider that proper cleaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal 7888 Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 a boresnake... cleans the barrel about as much as candy floss! all you do with a boresnake is push the fouling further in! rod borecleaner and patches! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 Cant agree with that as long as the snake is not dirty to start, though they are not as good as rods and all the kit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangey Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 hi guys how often do clean your 17 some one told me every 15 to 20 shots i think you would do more harm than good raming a rod down the barrel of a 17 every 15 to 20 shots.a dirty barrel is just dirty.a badly cleaned barrel is ruined.i now only clean when group opens up,then a very careful and thorough clean.tried the clean after every outing,but would always have to put 20 rounds down it to bring back on zero... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
204 rem Posted March 6, 2014 Report Share Posted March 6, 2014 I used to clean my 17 hmr rifle once in a blue moon I have heard a lot of **** spoken about cleaning the barrel every 10 to 20 shots .I use a bore snake to clean it and it never affected the accuracy one bit..........rem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted March 7, 2014 Report Share Posted March 7, 2014 i think you would do more harm than good raming a rod down the barrel of a 17 every 15 to 20 shots.a dirty barrel is just dirty.a badly cleaned barrel is ruined.i now only clean when group opens up,then a very careful and thorough clean.tried the clean after every outing,but would always have to put 20 rounds down it to bring back on zero... Yes bad cleaning will ruin a barrel, correct cleaning with a bore guide etc will not. The only reason your gun (with a copper jacket bullet) needs 20 rounds to bring it back on is to fill the voids and corrosion created through past errors in cleaning OR to even out the muck you left in when doing the clean that has "lumped up" in patches. A clean bore is the only repeatable bore state, you cannot replicate a state of dirty. The only exception to the above is with unjacketed bullets, as the bore then needs re-leading and lubing with the passage of bullets to settle its zero following a clean. The first shot is still very accurate but all further bullets will pass down a fundamentally very different bore so the impact point needs to settle. Copper jackets leave far less metal in the tube (being a far tougher metal than soft lead) and no lube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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