BenGriffiths97 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I recently purchased an ICOtec GC350 caller, and plan to use it for foxes next time I am out. I am aware these are illegal for use when hunting crows, but I'm fairly intrigued as to how effective an electric call would be. Does anyone here have any links to good corvid calls? Will post results if successful. ATB, Ben Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robbiep Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I recently purchased an ICOtec GC350 caller, and plan to use it for foxes next time I am out. I am aware these are illegal for use when hunting crows, but I'm fairly intrigued as to how effective an electric call would be. Does anyone here have any links to good corvid calls? Will post results if successful. ATB, Ben If you even consider trying to call in crows or other corvids using an electronic call, then don't even have the gun with you on that day. Yes, I'm serious. By some chance if it was reported to the RSPB that you were using an electronic call to bring in corvids, and you had a gun with you, then I wouldn't fancy your chances. They will go all out for a conviction Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tim85 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 I hunt app has lots of calls on it for all animals. On Android an iphone store I think. * Disclaimer - you can only use electronic calls on corvids to take photo's Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BenGriffiths97 Posted March 4, 2014 Author Share Posted March 4, 2014 Thankyou for the warnings, however I'm planning on trying it in my garden (I live in the countryside) and I will have no guns near me - the nearest being locked away indoors - so if the authorities are called, I will at least have a leg to stand on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Essex Keeper Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Fox pro wildfire will pull them in from miles Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jam1e Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Fox pro wildfire will pull them in from miles Just watched fox pro wildfire used on crows in the USA I think. Certainly does pull them in! It puzzles me why it's illegal to use electronic calls for crows, but ok for ground vermin?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HW682 Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Just watched fox pro wildfire used on crows in the USA I think. Certainly does pull them in! It puzzles me why it's illegal to use electronic calls for crows, but ok for ground vermin?? I have discussed this with Natural England. Apprently there is a concern that allowing recordings could be too effective and, as there is currently no reporting of numbers shot required under the GLs, there could be a sudden dip in numbers which could go too far before it becomes apparent and they get the chance to take them off the GLs. However, NE are considering voluntary or even compulsary reporting for all GLs ( see http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/ourwork/regulation/wildlife/licences/wildlifelicensingconsultation.aspx ) so if it does become compulsary we could push for the restriction to be lifted. Who would take part in voluntary reporting if as a trade-off electronic calls were allowed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kent Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Yet a quick search on u-tube shows up UK users shooting crows over electronic calls. they look pretty darn effective but like said they are now allowed under law Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wymberley Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Yet a quick search on u-tube shows up UK users shooting crows over electronic calls. they look pretty darn effective but like said they are now allowed under law 'Slip of the pen'? Easily done! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jam1e Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 I have discussed this with Natural England. Apprently there is a concern that allowing recordings could be too effective and, as there is currently no reporting of numbers shot required under the GLs, there could be a sudden dip in numbers which could go too far before it becomes apparent and they get the chance to take them off the GLs. However, NE are considering voluntary or even compulsary reporting for all GLs ( see http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/ourwork/regulation/wildlife/licences/wildlifelicensingconsultation.aspx ) so if it does become compulsary we could push for the restriction to be lifted. Who would take part in voluntary reporting if as a trade-off electronic calls were allowed? I wouldn't...... They obviously work well though.... but I've been doing a fair bit of decoying lately, using my "Primos Power Crow Call". I've gone from making sounds like a crow being strangled, to something near right, as I've drawn a few in lately. I'm even shooting a few of them to! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aliturnbull Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 I use a primo crow call I only ever used to shoot a few crows every time I go out an if I see a crow within 400 yards I start calling and it more or less always comes in I used to be terrible but I kept practicing and a useful tip is when you blow the call try and growl into it instead of blowing normaly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie B Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 Count your blessings. We can't even use crow decoys here in Ireland. Also not allowed use any calls to draw in fox's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FOXHUNTER1 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 4 hours ago, Eddie B said: Count your blessings. We can't even use crow decoys here in Ireland. Also not allowed use any calls to draw in fox's. Never knew that . Do you mean electronic calls or any calls ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Walker570 Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 4 hours ago, Eddie B said: Count your blessings. We can't even use crow decoys here in Ireland. Also not allowed use any calls to draw in fox's. Not even with your own mouth ????? The only electronic calls I have tried and have a few are too raucous and nothing like the true sound, where a blown one you can vary from soft to hard as required. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eddie B Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 On 04/01/2021 at 14:51, FOXHUNTER1 said: Never knew that . Do you mean electronic calls or any calls ? Seemingly any call. Loads still use mouth calls though, and many don't even know its illegal. On 04/01/2021 at 15:03, Walker570 said: Not even with your own mouth ????? The only electronic calls I have tried and have a few are too raucous and nothing like the true sound, where a blown one you can vary from soft to hard as required. Think that's the only method deemed ok to use, but loads of lads still use mouth and electronic calls, not even aware that they are illegal to use. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Walker570 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Where does all this put the rubber Buttalo roe call which is also very attractive to Foxy? Are they also illegal? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pushandpull Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 The legislation (WCA) is specific to birds : ".......it is an offence to use as a decoy to kill or take any wild bird, any sound recording......" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Centrepin Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 I use one of these, about a fiver. Takes a bit of practice but if you hold it vertical against your bottom lip and sort of growl, *** blow and roll your rrrsss, it can be very convincing. Vary the length and depth of blow and it can bring crows in from a fair distance. Providing the decoy pattern is right and the crows are feeding. Best used when crows are circling or over flying. To the best of my knowledge and belief quite legal. I'm also told you can imitate magpies, jays and pigeon but I'm not that good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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