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My next door neighbour who minds my kids rang me today that a lady had called to her to enquire about the person next door (me) and the dogs who were barking all the time.

 

Now I have 3 dogs at the moment a Springer Spaniel, German Wirehaired Pointer and a Setter Pup. At the time this woman called the dogs were barking in the run. This was because we have a cleaner who calls to the house for a couple of hours once a week and while she is in the house the dogs go mental.

 

Normally the dogs don’t bark only when the post man comes or if there is a noise out the back, same as any normal dog would do. They do not bark at night because I would go mental if that happened myself. About 6 weeks ago one Sunday morning shortly after I got the pup it was whining from about 5 O clock in the morning, but I didn’t go out to it for fear it would start it every night, I haven’t had a problem with it since.

 

But there are two houses behind me where there are some elderly people living. Now I have never had any issue with them in the past, one of them has approached me about cutting down some large popular trees and whitethorn trees at the back of my house which are on the bounds of the 2 properties. He wanted to cut the trees down and clear the top of the ditch, which I don’t want to do as the trees give us privacy, I agreed that we could cut the tops off the trees to the first floor window level on my house and that he cut down the largest one at the end. He had already gotten a quote from a tree surgeon, which included cutting down other trees on the other side of my house which are not on my property. I told him to go back to the tree surgeon get a revised price and I would pay my share, he has yet to get back to me about it.

 

Now getting back to the lady who called today, she said she was the daughter of one of the neighbours at the back of the house and was looking for a phone number for me. She said that she was concerned about all of the barking that the dogs were doing and that it was upsetting my elderly neighbours, that every time they go out the door the dogs are barking at them. She also said she was concerned for the welfare of the dogs, that they are in a poor state of health and that they are in a small pen and are left out in the sun all day, with no shelter.

 

Now the dogs are in a 17 X 7ft run with a 4X4ft foot house with cow matting to lie on in the run, they are exercised regularly, I leave them out around the garden and do some training with them if I can’t bring them for a walk or the weekends they get a good run out in the fields. They are well fed and vaccinated.

 

The dogs don’t bark at the neighbours as there is a massive high ditch at the back of the house and they can’t see or hear them coming or going. I have asked my next door neighbour whether they are barking all day while I’m away and she says she doesn’t hear them. They do bark when this cleaner calls as she comes in the back door and the dogs don’t like it.

 

Yer woman said that she is a solicitor and wanted to have a chat with me about the dogs, she said that she would be taking further action on this if she didn’t hear from me.

 

I don’t think she is a solicitor and I don’t think she knows anything about dogs that qualify her as an animal welfare specialist. The dogs are well looked after, I don’t believe they are constantly barking all of the time. It’s just a bunch of retired busy bodies with nothing to do all day but start fights with the neighbours. She has left her number for me to call her.

 

What should I do?

 

 

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Call her and invite her round for a cup of tea and show her that your dogs are all ok.

 

Acknowledge that she has a concern (important to settle her mind) and then overcome it by showing her the dogs and chatting with her face to face.

 

If you invite her and she declines then the ball is more in your court :-).

 

I think the problem is that when you are at home all day with nothing to do it's easy to hear any noise and blow things out of proportion - then some casual chinese whispers turns from "I heard some dogs barking" to "poor health dogs looking for small children to eat". Just be the bigger person and in a nice and welcoming and friendly voice invite her over for a cuppa and a chat.

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I agree that a friendly and balanced approach is best.

 

I once lived next door to a woman who regularly told me "her dogs would never bark all day" however I was compelled to beg to differ, because her dogs did in fact bark all day. I know this because I worked from home and it absolutely did my head in.

 

I was forced to prove it in the end, and she made alternative arrangements for them.

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Mediation all the way! After serving many years as a policeman, Over half neighbour disputes would have been sorted very quickly if either party had left their "ego" at home.... Another stumbling block, is trying to get through to people that it's not a case of who "Wins" and who "Loses", it's about compromise.....

No matter how much of an **** people can be, it doesn't hurt to show you are willing to listen to another's point of view. And my god have I had to sit and listen to some real "Chavvy D-Heads" in my time.... I swear it's the reason I'm balding! :/

Anyhow, IF they can evidence "all the barking" then maybe you do need to make some "adjustments"?

Either way, the problem's nothing to do with this so called "Solicitor" woman, unless she can evidence she is acting for said neighbours.

Personally, I'd blow her out initially, and go around to said neighbours house, (with a witness) and ask if you could have a chat as you have been told the dogs are a problem. And go from there....

Jamie

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I had exactly the same issues tell them to phone the council noise dept etc and you have nothing to hide or chuck in a bluff say you have CCTV all around your house that records all visitors and records sounds so if there is a problem they can come and watch the dogs not barkingall day I found you usaually hear no more from them

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To be fair, if 3 dogs barked for two hour once a week (as yours do when your cleaner comes) it would start to seem like they were barking "all the time" and listening to them barking for 2 hours would do my head in.

 

Try and reason with them yes, but be sure and try and see things from their point of view too.

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My next door nieghbours daughter has what i would call a hand bag dog,she would go out and leave the dog alone for hours on end,from the time she left the house till she got back the thing would bark,one weekend the neighbours went away from friday night till sunday night,the daughter let it bark solid day and night,when i pulled him up about it he said dogs bark its what they do,i have every sympathy with people who have to endure the noise from selfish owners who think its ok to let there animals bark,just because its what they do.

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Well I'm back home and I've been talking to my next door neighbour, apparently this woman went to 2 other neighbours giving out about me, one next door on the other side of my house and the other two doors down from me. The neighbour two doors down has a big black lab who rushed out to meet her she was at the door. She was half accussed the neighbours dog of also barking.

 

She left her number for me to have a friendly chat with her, I won't be engaging with this woman. She's not a solicitor shes just stirring ****, I have an idea who she is now as I live in a small town and everyone knows everyone around here, and she's a nut job.

 

I will wait for the neighbours to make direct contact with me about the dogs, but I'm not talking to that other lunatic. Apparently she was giving out about the inhumane conditions the dogs are in and they are living in their own faeces. I think she's a bit of a leftie.

 

Sound advice there jam1e, the last thing I need now is to be fighting with the neighbours like some bunch of ******.

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I have four dogs at the min, I some times have more, none are allowed to bark,

 

I really don't understand why you permit your dogs to, as you say " go mental" at some one you allow in your home.

I don't think the person is concerned over the welfare of your dogs or they would just call the R.S.P.C.A. or police

I think she is saying this to bring your attention to the fact that the dogs are disturbing her/them as they would any one barking for two hrs that you know about, as well as the postman ect ..ect..ect

Spend some time with the dogs when the cleaner is their and stop them barking, have a little consideration for the neighbors.

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My next door neighbour who minds my kids rang me today that a lady had called to her to enquire about the person next door (me) and the dogs who were barking all the time.

 

Now I have 3 dogs at the moment a Springer Spaniel, German Wirehaired Pointer and a Setter Pup. At the time this woman called the dogs were barking in the run. This was because we have a cleaner who calls to the house for a couple of hours once a week and while she is in the house the dogs go mental.

 

Normally the dogs don’t bark only when the post man comes or if there is a noise out the back, same as any normal dog would do. They do not bark at night because I would go mental if that happened myself. About 6 weeks ago one Sunday morning shortly after I got the pup it was whining from about 5 O clock in the morning, but I didn’t go out to it for fear it would start it every night, I haven’t had a problem with it since.

 

But there are two houses behind me where there are some elderly people living. Now I have never had any issue with them in the past, one of them has approached me about cutting down some large popular trees and whitethorn trees at the back of my house which are on the bounds of the 2 properties. He wanted to cut the trees down and clear the top of the ditch, which I don’t want to do as the trees give us privacy, I agreed that we could cut the tops off the trees to the first floor window level on my house and that he cut down the largest one at the end. He had already gotten a quote from a tree surgeon, which included cutting down other trees on the other side of my house which are not on my property. I told him to go back to the tree surgeon get a revised price and I would pay my share, he has yet to get back to me about it.

 

Now getting back to the lady who called today, she said she was the daughter of one of the neighbours at the back of the house and was looking for a phone number for me. She said that she was concerned about all of the barking that the dogs were doing and that it was upsetting my elderly neighbours, that every time they go out the door the dogs are barking at them. She also said she was concerned for the welfare of the dogs, that they are in a poor state of health and that they are in a small pen and are left out in the sun all day, with no shelter.

 

Now the dogs are in a 17 X 7ft run with a 4X4ft foot house with cow matting to lie on in the run, they are exercised regularly, I leave them out around the garden and do some training with them if I can’t bring them for a walk or the weekends they get a good run out in the fields. They are well fed and vaccinated.

 

The dogs don’t bark at the neighbours as there is a massive high ditch at the back of the house and they can’t see or hear them coming or going. I have asked my next door neighbour whether they are barking all day while I’m away and she says she doesn’t hear them. They do bark when this cleaner calls as she comes in the back door and the dogs don’t like it.

 

Yer woman said that she is a solicitor and wanted to have a chat with me about the dogs, she said that she would be taking further action on this if she didn’t hear from me.

 

I don’t think she is a solicitor and I don’t think she knows anything about dogs that qualify her as an animal welfare specialist. The dogs are well looked after, I don’t believe they are constantly barking all of the time. It’s just a bunch of retired busy bodies with nothing to do all day but start fights with the neighbours. She has left her number for me to call her.

 

What should I do?

 

If she (the other neighbour) represents herself as a solicitor and is not that in itself is an offence! However being blunt dogs are not just for weekends and perhaps its time to re-visit you schedule (like getting them out early and or late for some proper stimulation) Does each dog have a dry house of the size mentioned for itself?

 

Might be worth putting a camera on the dogs when your away to see what actually goes on?

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Yes I do, but your OP and your answer shows every one why you don't get on with you neighbors

 

I do get on with my neighbours. I'm not going to engage with these people because they have gone around and defamed my character, probably tresspassed on my property by going around the back of my house. She (said 'solicitor' lady) went to everybody around me about the dogs, bar talking to me about it first. When I posted this thread I was only aware that she had gone to my next door neighbour, when I came home I found out that she had also gone to 2 other neighbours.

 

She's accused me of animal cruelty even though the dogs are well looked after, vaccinated, trained and they have their own run. Run is cleaned daily, they are exercised, what else does she want me to do. They bark at strangers like any other dog. They are security around the back of the house, I'm not giving in to a pair of old cranks and their nut case daughter.

 

I'm willing to meet one on one, but she can bloody well retract her statements now by going to my neighbours and anyone else and apologise for what she has done before I will talk to anybody about this issue.

 

The horse I was on about was your moral high horse.

 

If she (the other neighbour) represents herself as a solicitor and is not that in itself is an offence! However being blunt dogs are not just for weekends and perhaps its time to re-visit you schedule (like getting them out early and or late for some proper stimulation) Does each dog have a dry house of the size mentioned for itself?

 

Might be worth putting a camera on the dogs when your away to see what actually goes on?

 

I know dogs are not just for weekend, I spend time with them every evening when I go home. The dogs are housed together in the same run and have the same house. I may get some anti bark collars it will probably stop any barking, but I'm not convinced that the dogs are barking the whole time. I have asked my next door neighbours if the dogs bark during the day and they say that they don't hear them.

 

One of the old guys at the back of my house had this little mongrel thing that was constantly yapping all day long and whenever it was left outside. Sometimes it would run up onto the ditch at the back of my house and bark at my dogs in the run, not once did I ever complain to him about it or slate him to anyone else.

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I am not getting on my moral high horse, its called consideration for others.

Sit back and think for a min, do you really think its OK for your three dogs QUOTE " Go Mental" for two hrs when your cleaner is there or the post man arrives. or a sparrow farts as it flys by.

Put the shoe on the other foot, I think judging by your posts you would soon be knocking on the offending door.

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I am not getting on my moral high horse, its called consideration for others.

Sit back and think for a min, do you really think its OK for your three dogs QUOTE " Go Mental" for two hrs when your cleaner is there or the post man arrives. or a sparrow farts as it flys by.

Put the shoe on the other foot, I think judging by your posts you would soon be knocking on the offending door.

 

Sorry if I have offended you but from your first post it looked like you were taking a pop at me as I am very sensitive to this at the moment.

 

Just to clarify so there is no further misunderstanding; Its only one dog that goes mental and that's the springer. She only does it when she sees our cleaning lady, but she's in the house for about two hours a week. When I say she goes mental she barks and runs up and down the run, its not constant for 2 hour just whenever the cleaning lady comes out. The other dog is a GWP who will bark but she soon gets sick of it and the third dog is a 16 week old pup and doesn't know whether she is coming or going at the moment.

 

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Sorry if I have offended you but from your first post it looked like you were taking a pop at me as I am very sensitive to this at the moment.

 

Just to clarify so there is no further misunderstanding; Its only one dog that goes mental and that's the springer. She only does it when she sees our cleaning lady, but she's in the house for about two hours a week. When I say she goes mental she barks and runs up and down the run, its not constant for 2 hour just whenever the cleaning lady comes out. The other dog is a GWP who will bark but she soon gets sick of it and the third dog is a 16 week old pup and doesn't know whether she is coming or going at the moment.

 

A very different post from your first post my friend

 

quote "while she is in the house the dogs go mental"

 

I shall leave you with your problem

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Don't worry, when it comes to asking advise, you always get one that just wants to talk about how good they are themselves rather than offering any tips.

Dogs naturally will try and protect their territory. See the cleaner coming in the house without you sparks that reaction.

 

These days tolerance is very little and for people that spend day in, day out sitting at home, waiting for something to happen so they can concentrate on it and make themselves feel important. There is consideration for other people but that works both ways. It's seems to be me me me these days.

 

I had the same issue with a neighbour moaning about barking, he also moaned about children playing the next garden, a neighbours bees nest etc, thing is if you keep moaning some idiot in the council will listen. Their goal is one thing, nothing to do with stopping the dogs barking but removal.

 

I am guessing the run and kennel is open and they can see the house. Blank off the views to the house, even to the rest of the garden, what they cannot see they cannot react to. There will always be something they will bark about, that is dogs, but this will reduce it alot.

They can go around complaining, they can complain to the council, they will send letters and threats, unless they are barking constantly all day they can do very little.

Do what you can to reduce it and then forget about it. The more you think about it the more it worries you.

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Why don't you first of all find out if the dogs are making a noise ? If they are, put a plan in place to sort it. If they're not being noisy then just let the lady get on with whatever it is she has threatened to do. Invite local authorities to your kennels / home to do an assessment. After that forget about it and get on with life.

 

If they are barking I would strongly advise you put a reliable plan in place to wipe the problem out. Ten years ago I lived next door to a noisy dog. it was an hour at a time now and again and not every day because the owner occasionally took the dog to work with him but I can tell you now, if you are a quiet living person living next door or near to a noisy dog, it's very unpleasant. Sickening in fact. It's something I would not tolerate from my own. They could be the best working dogs in the world but if they made any noise in and around my garden or in the kennels I would be getting rid. You have to be honest with yourself though.

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Don't worry, when it comes to asking advise, you always get one that just wants to talk about how good they are themselves rather than offering any tips.

Dogs naturally will try and protect their territory. See the cleaner coming in the house without you sparks that reaction.

 

These days tolerance is very little and for people that spend day in, day out sitting at home, waiting for something to happen so they can concentrate on it and make themselves feel important. There is consideration for other people but that works both ways. It's seems to be me me me these days.

 

I had the same issue with a neighbour moaning about barking, he also moaned about children playing the next garden, a neighbours bees nest etc, thing is if you keep moaning some idiot in the council will listen. Their goal is one thing, nothing to do with stopping the dogs barking but removal.

 

I am guessing the run and kennel is open and they can see the house. Blank off the views to the house, even to the rest of the garden, what they cannot see they cannot react to. There will always be something they will bark about, that is dogs, but this will reduce it alot.

They can go around complaining, they can complain to the council, they will send letters and threats, unless they are barking constantly all day they can do very little.

Do what you can to reduce it and then forget about it. The more you think about it the more it worries you.

People are entitled to do that in peace if they want to.

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People are entitled to do that in peace if they want to.

 

True, but life goes on around them. That means people building or drilling each day, kids making noise. This plan to stop them making noise is what exactly? Stop having a cleaner is one. What else? Come home from work to be there? Your solution is to get rid, maybe the women loves the dogs and doesn't want to get rid.

We have a neighbour who is deaf and he listens to his tv late at night, we just ignore it, get on with things. He enjoys his TV why take that away from him?

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Don't worry, when it comes to asking advise, you always get one that just wants to talk about how good they are themselves rather than offering any tips.

Dogs naturally will try and protect their territory. See the cleaner coming in the house without you sparks that reaction.

 

These days tolerance is very little and for people that spend day in, day out sitting at home, waiting for something to happen so they can concentrate on it and make themselves feel important. There is consideration for other people but that works both ways. It's seems to be me me me these days.

 

I had the same issue with a neighbour moaning about barking, he also moaned about children playing the next garden, a neighbours bees nest etc, thing is if you keep moaning some idiot in the council will listen. Their goal is one thing, nothing to do with stopping the dogs barking but removal.

 

I am guessing the run and kennel is open and they can see the house. Blank off the views to the house, even to the rest of the garden, what they cannot see they cannot react to. There will always be something they will bark about, that is dogs, but this will reduce it alot.

They can go around complaining, they can complain to the council, they will send letters and threats, unless they are barking constantly all day they can do very little.

Do what you can to reduce it and then forget about it. The more you think about it the more it worries you.

 

 

Why don't you first of all find out if the dogs are making a noise ? If they are, put a plan in place to sort it. If they're not being noisy then just let the lady get on with whatever it is she has threatened to do. Invite local authorities to your kennels / home to do an assessment. After that forget about it and get on with life.

 

If they are barking I would strongly advise you put a reliable plan in place to wipe the problem out. Ten years ago I lived next door to a noisy dog. it was an hour at a time now and again and not every day because the owner occasionally took the dog to work with him but I can tell you now, if you are a quiet living person living next door or near to a noisy dog, it's very unpleasant. Sickening in fact. It's something I would not tolerate from my own. They could be the best working dogs in the world but if they made any noise in and around my garden or in the kennels I would be getting rid. You have to be honest with yourself though.

 

 

Baxooka nd Richie thanks for your replies.

 

I could spend a fortune on get cameras put in and anti bark collars, but I have spoken to the neighbours on either side of me and they have said that they have no problems with the dogs and don't hear them barking. I don't hear them barking I sleep at the back of the house right over the runs and if they were barking during the night I'ld be down to them in a shot. I know in my haeart and soul that the dogs aren't causing a problem.

 

Stopping the dogs from barking completely is not going to happen, its kind of like stopping them from ****ting. Thats just concentration camp for dogs stuff.

 

I've been checking out the laws and basically there is nothing that these neighbours can do to me, even if the dogs were barking incessantly. If the ISPCA call to check on the welffare of the dogs, then I'll just get a clean bill of health from them. They will only remove animals if they are being neglected. I would a welcome a visit from them.

 

Its getting to the stage where dog owners like myself are constantly being discriminated against, I live beside a big beach but I can't bring the dogs to the beach anymore because of all the bye laws about keeping them on leads, picking up after them etc.. its just not worth the hassel of some day tripper from the city giving out to you for having the dogs in the water for a swim. I have to bring them off out the countryside instead. It would nearly put you off owning a dog.

 

On a side note, a few of the houses below me are rented. There have been anti social tenents in them on a few occasions. I've went out to ****ers roaring drunk on my own at night to tell them to shut the **** up. I didn't have any back up from any of these neighbours, I've sorted out more problems with noisy neighbours in this neighbourhood then they ever have.

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