njc110381 Posted February 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Can you shoot larger deer like fallow with a .243? I understand you may be more limited to the range you can take them at, if you can at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P03 Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 I know stalkers who regularly take Fallow with a .243, I think if you know what your rifle is capable of and you put the bullet in the right place then you'll get a good humane kill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miffy Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 I know stalkers who regularly take Fallow with a .243, I think if you know what your rifle is capable of and you put the bullet in the right place then you'll get a good humane kill. I have shot fallow with a .243 and never had a problem at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted February 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 What's the expected barrel life of a 6.5? Ask Drovers about this He may also advise you not to go for the 6.5 if you are shooting out to 600yards, the drop is massive at that range, you will need a scope with plenty of adjustment that is for sure! At 200 yard zero it will have already dropped about 52" at 500 yards (factory ammo) I'll get on to Drovers about it, he's local to me and may be able to have a good chat with me about it at the club if I can figure out who he is! It's looking good for .243 though, so that will probably be the answer. I'll be at Mendip again soon, so Steve, if you're available when I go maybe we could meet up again too? We could maybe have a chat, and I also need someone to teach me how to hit rabbits :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P03 Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 "Honest M'Lud he just wouldn't let it lie" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 I'll get on to Drovers about it, he's local to me and may be able to have a good chat with me about it at the club if I can figure out who he is! You can't miss him, realy nice bloke but one ugly mutha ****a Coincidently I was stalking and pigeon shooting with him on Saturday up your way. He is threatening to come to down for Bisley in August, 600 yards should be no problem at all for him with his new toy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted February 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Sorry bud, but some of the things being said under your breath at the time still make me laugh now EDIT....New toy??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P03 Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Yeah, Yeah........ Let me know when you're off to Mendip I'll see if I can make it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 I know one thing , I have seen, MANY, fallow, shot with a .243 and also a 6.5 x 55. The 6.5, drops them on the spot, with most chest, heart/lung shots. With the .243, they can run for up to 100yds , before they drop dead. Frank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted February 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Deer sometimes run if they get scared, even after a fatal shot. Something to do with adrenaline and nerves trying to make the escape. I've read it's best to stay low immediately after a shot to let them drop in peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P03 Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Normally leave it 10 minutes unless the beast is in view and plainly dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_HMR Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 shoot em in the head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Open can of worms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted February 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 In the head?! That's a very small target area if you want a brain shot! I thought that lung or heart shots were best, depending on angle lung shots being preferred to avoid hitting the shoulder meat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_HMR Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 opps..... Do a search im sure its come up. I'm sure most people can obtain a 5" grouping within 300yards with a .243 just need to have the right conditions and squeeze..... flop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 In the head?! That's a very small target area if you want a brain shot! I thought that lung or heart shots were best, depending on angle lung shots being preferred to avoid hitting the shoulder meat Hitting the shoulder isn't always a bad shot, in fact it is recommended sometimes - but it does cause meat damage. We were advised to hit the shoulder if culling more than one hind from a group, as it guarantees the deer will drop on the spot, which means you can sometimes drop a second beast as they don't always scatter instantly. Heads shots aren't recommended as the head is on the end of the neck (obviously!) and they bob about, resulting in a smashed jaw, if you are realy unlucky - the deer will be lost and it will die of starvation, slowly - very nasty. Heart/lung gives the largets margin for error. EDIT....New toy??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted February 12, 2007 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 That looks big! What calibre is that thing? Nice rifle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miffy Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 I know one thing :o , I have seen, MANY, fallow, shot with a .243 and also a 6.5 x 55. The 6.5, drops them on the spot, with most chest, heart/lung shots. With the .243, they can run for up to 100yds , before they drop dead. :o Frank. I've shot Fallow with the .243 that have run on perhaps 30 yards or so but i've also shot Roe and Muntjac that have run on after being shot. When gralloched out the shots have been good. I have also shot Fallow and Roe with a .308 and they too have run on after being shot. Also with 30-06 and .270 and a mate shoots alot with 6.5 x 55 and its happened to him, another mate shoots with 25-06 and the same to him too :o .....It happens with any calibre That looks big! What calibre is that thing? Nice rifle What calibre is it Stuart ? Tell him to bring plenty of ammo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Never done Stalking YET! ....................But from observing a DSC1 video and some of the Warreners (Curteusy of the previous poster )that a neck shot drops them on the spot .Would I be in the wrong if that was my chosen bullet placement .........circumstances permitting that is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miffy Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Never done Stalking YET! ....................But from observing a DSC1 video and some of the Warreners (Curteusy of the previous poster )that a neck shot drops them on the spot .Would I be in the wrong if that was my chosen bullet placement .........circumstances permitting that is Will get ya a stalk asap mate...i'm workin on it A neck/head shot does indeed drop them on the spot.............BUT the margin for error is such that you could easily wound a deer causing alot of distress and slow death to the Deer. I have shot deer in the head but only in certain circumstances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter_HMR Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 I think you kinda have to put things into context My limited experience comes from two stalkers my dad and a friend both using a .22/250 which is a very accurate flat shooting round. Both were maybe taking 3-4deer in a season One favours a headshot the other a shoulder. I can see where your coming from that they move their heads a bit but all you have to do is just wait for the right shot and take it. I can't see why someone would take a heart lung shot over a head shot/shoulder shot with an accurate rifle under good conditions within sensible ranges. Fair enough if someone is doing alot of culling but for someone who isnt shooting alot of deer they can afford to take their time pick and shoot under ideal conditions How many deer are you guys shooting? And the sako's are only chambered in .308 asfaik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye ive Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 I have shot deer in the head but only in certain circumstances Cheers mate ...............was'nt hinting just pointing out my limited or more to the point no knowledge what so ever in this area . I have a feeling this could run for 2/3 more pages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miffy Posted February 12, 2007 Report Share Posted February 12, 2007 Cheers mate ...............was'nt hinting just pointing out my limited or more to the point no knowledge what so ever in this area . I have a feeling this could run for 2/3 more pages I know where you was coming from Ive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunganick Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 I have seen reds, seka, fallow, munties, roe, shot with every thing from .222 to 7 m rem mag let me say this .9 times out of 10, i have seen them run, one had its hart knocked clean out with some lung tissue and it ran for 100yards plus on stored oxygen, secondley the neck shot the only way that drops them because you cut the spinel cord, not realy a good shot to take, not many stalkers will take that shot .as for caliber .308 is the most versitile round available its good enough for the armed forces snipers and swat teams it should be good for you just remember windage & elivation should we be using .338 lap mag's then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted February 13, 2007 Report Share Posted February 13, 2007 What calibre is it Stuart ?Tell him to bring plenty of ammo It's a .308 Miffy/njc and he has checked with the Sako factory it will take 7.62 OK - so he has plenty of ammo, and tracer The deer shot placement thing has been done to death on here and just about every other shooting forum. The shot to take is the right one for the situation and your ability - the one that will drop the deer with the minimum of suffering and mnimum risk of failure - end of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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