grrclark Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 The best thing we can do for Gazza is put him in prison and save him from himself.. If he lived another 6 months in his current condition I would be very surprised. I am assuming that you mean this with the best of intentions Mike, to save him from himself. We cannot have the state act as a guardian for everyone, there has to be personal responsibility and choice. To exaggerate for an example, do we lock up the obese to stop them dying early from diabetes, lock up the sedentary to avoid them dying of early heart failure? Where would we draw the line? If he is a risk to someone else then contain him for sure, but if he is just drinking himself into an early grave despite all the other interventions that have taken place in his life then we learn from his plight and hopefully educate others to avoid the same outcome. Most of all we treat him with some dignity and hopefully not turn his downfall into some kind of freak show for a dark voyeuristic pleasure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 I am assuming that you mean this with the best of intentions Mike, to save him from himself. We cannot have the state act as a guardian for everyone, there has to be personal responsibility and choice. To exaggerate for an example, do we lock up the obese to stop them dying early from diabetes, lock up the sedentary to avoid them dying of early heart failure? Where would we draw the line? If he is a risk to someone else then contain him for sure, but if he is just drinking himself into an early grave despite all the other interventions that have taken place in his life then we learn from his plight and hopefully educate others to avoid the same outcome. Most of all we treat him with some dignity and hopefully not turn his downfall into some kind of freak show for a dark voyeuristic pleasure. Both of your posts have beem spot on. I can't imagine how distressing it must be for his family and true friends to watch the effects of his disease slowly kill him. Truly tragic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartynGT4 Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 as someone who has had their teenage daughter collapse and die in front of them threw no fault of hers at all and who never gave us cause to be annoyed at her in any way [and yes I am looking threw rose tinted specs but I am being 100% honest] I have no sympathy for him at all hes had far too many chances at getting his act together while being supported by others both financially and emotionally which a lot of people have not had the chance of ........ my outlook is now in black and white there are far too many people like my daughter who didn't have the option so when I read / hear people whinging of how hard they,ve had due to addictions etc it boils my pee they chose to take whatever substance they became addicted to so why should they have my pity . I seen too many kids in hospital fighting or their lives due to no fault of them or their parents . Can't argue with that +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STOTTO Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 When at the height of their powers the great are showered with adoration but at their lowest point are often lacking pity from those that once adored them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 He's wasted more chances than many would get in a hundred life times. It is what it is as they say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooternick Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 The best thing we can do for Gazza is put him in prison and save him from himself.. If he lived another 6 months in his current condition I would be very surprised. Why should the taxpayer foot the bill for his problem he had his chance and he blew it, simple as that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 Was in the news yesterday he's joined a Sunday league team in Bournemouth, and is living in Poole... !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurchers Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 as someone who has had their teenage daughter collapse and die in front of them threw no fault of hers at all and who never gave us cause to be annoyed at her in any way [and yes I am looking threw rose tinted specs but I am being 100% honest] I have no sympathy for him at all hes had far too many chances at getting his act together while being supported by others both financially and emotionally which a lot of people have not had the chance of ........ my outlook is now in black and white there are far too many people like my daughter who didn't have the option so when I read / hear people whinging of how hard they,ve had due to addictions etc it boils my pee they chose to take whatever substance they became addicted to so why should they have my pity . I seen too many kids in hospital fighting or their lives due to no fault of them or their parents . I agree with you on this 1 mate.he is an embarresment to his self and the northeast.hes has more than enough chances and i hate football so that dosent bother me either.why waste more money on a idiot like this who wont even help himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.w. Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 as someone who has had their teenage daughter collapse and die in front of them threw no fault of hers at all and who never gave us cause to be annoyed at her in any way [and yes I am looking threw rose tinted specs but I am being 100% honest] I have no sympathy for him at all hes had far too many chances at getting his act together while being supported by others both financially and emotionally which a lot of people have not had the chance of ........ my outlook is now in black and white there are far too many people like my daughter who didn't have the option so when I read / hear people whinging of how hard they,ve had due to addictions etc it boils my pee they chose to take whatever substance they became addicted to so why should they have my pity . I seen too many kids in hospital fighting or their lives due to no fault of them or their parents . +1 so very true,The man has failed himself and all that have given him help, he is wasting good oxygen, I think he's been dead for seven years but has just forgotten to fall over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 No-one could deny how much help he has had over a prolonged period, but it is still tragically sad to see someone fall apart, who looks sure to die sooner rather than later. There are others in the same boat, but they are not force fed to us via the media, like Gazza. I know he doesn't help himself, but I still feel sorry for him. Getting too soft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildfowler.250 Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 (edited) Sad times..he looks awful Edited August 23, 2014 by wildfowler.250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 i doubt it. I hope I look that good...when I'm 80!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billytheghillie Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 The best thing we can do for Gazza is put him in prison and save him from himself.. If he lived another 6 months in his current condition I would be very surprised. All very well putting him in prison, but he could still get his booze of the Landlord! (Jim Mcdonald) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 I hope he beats this, his present condition could be a convincing argument to young people of the possible consequence of drink, probably wont though ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 I was going to make a tasteless gag about Israel, but after seeing the picture of the poor sod I won't bother. He is clearly in the final stages of chronic alcohol abuse, as others have pointed out, the only positive might be it putting youngsters from drinking to excess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted August 23, 2014 Report Share Posted August 23, 2014 Todays youngsters or ale heads need to be force fed with piccies of people like this to explain just how easy it is to end up in this mess. from Auntie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 iv known a couple of people who drank themselves to death 1 of which was an accountant and the problem was that once he was on that ride he just couldnt get off, having said that he got no help as nobody knew, he borrowed 40k went on a world holiday for about 3 months , came back hit the vodka big time to the tune of about a litre a day stayed home saw nobody and was found dead in a chair by his brother. when it catches up with them it happens quite quickly so gazza could be here a week a month a year who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garjo Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 My brother died in March - died of alcholism -tried to get help but in the end came too late. Agree the person has to want to change themselves -seeing someone die from alcholism is absolutely heartbreaking - feel so sorry for his family Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 My brother died in March - died of alcholism -tried to get help but in the end came too late. Agree the person has to want to change themselves -seeing someone die from alcholism is absolutely heartbreaking - feel so sorry for his family I feel for you. My Brother Inlaw died aged 36 from alcoholism. Did not want the help until it was to late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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