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Previously perfectly legal pastime made illegal by idiots, which was held in high esteem in the country and club trips out were treated like a day pheasant shooting.

 

Much better for the hare population than shooting, strong hares would escape, providing better genetics and the amount killed a fraction that are killed in hare drives.

 

People from all walks of life would mix at the meetings. Hares given law and dogs doing what they are born for.

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Previously perfectly legal pastime made illegal by idiots, which was held in high esteem in the country and club trips out were treated like a day pheasant shooting.

 

Much better for the hare population than shooting, strong hares would escape, providing better genetics and the amount killed a fraction that are killed in hare drives.

 

People from all walks of life would mix at the meetings. Hares given law and dogs doing what they are born for.

 

Exactly. A regular and respected feature of the sporting calendar. Read the old reports and it's the local gentry organising the meets, a sharp contrast to what's happening now.

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Previously perfectly legal pastime made illegal by idiots, which was held in high esteem in the country and club trips out were treated like a day pheasant shooting.

 

Much better for the hare population than shooting, strong hares would escape, providing better genetics and the amount killed a fraction that are killed in hare drives.

 

People from all walks of life would mix at the meetings. Hares given law and dogs doing what they are born for.

 

A very similar veiw to my own , the law has stopped everyone enjoying it apart from te "idiots" that caused it to be banned.

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A very similar veiw to my own , the law has stopped everyone enjoying it apart from te "idiots" that caused it to be banned.

The pivotal person was Tony Blair.

 

It's funny that in the BBC page it doesn't actually say that most of the time the hare gets away with little or no effect to it's well being, as running away from preditors is what it been doing since it was born.

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The pivotal person was Tony Blair.

 

It's funny that in the BBC page it doesn't actually say that most of the time the hare gets away with little or no effect to it's well being, as running away from preditors is what it been doing since it was born.

Fully agree that most of the time the hare should escape but when I was a boy I watched coursing and if a hare escaped the initial pair of dogs, another pair were released until the hare was eventually killed. This sort of abuse is what gave the " Do-gooders" the ammo to get the sport banned.

That and the ever present threat of violence.........

Properly carried out, there should be no problem with coursing.

Or fox hunting for that matter but it was a political move by Blair as hunting was seen as un "upper-class" occupation - (although it's not). We are lucky the Left got booted out or pheasant shooting would have been next.

There was no move to ban the "working Man's" sport of fishing....

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I remember many years ago I used to go hare coursing with my father,not to organised coursing,just him and I on a local farm with permission.He would only take one Greyhound because he thought one to one would be a fair match.It was the most exciting competition I have ever seen.,dog versus hare.Hare usually won,the kill was of no importance what so ever,just the course.

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I have no love for Blair but he tried to get middle ground as basically the guy is a silver spoon socialist. His cronies were not biting though and voted on ignorance and pure prejudice.

 

Hare coursing is not on the up, deer poaching with pit bull cross lurchers is. I mean why get done under the same act when the rewards are so much greater hunting deer instead? Well done the loony left

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Fully agree that most of the time the hare should escape but when I was a boy I watched coursing and if a hare escaped the initial pair of dogs, another pair were released until the hare was eventually killed. This sort of abuse is what gave the " Do-gooders" the ammo to get the sport banned.

That and the ever present threat of violence.........

Properly carried out, there should be no problem with coursing.

Or fox hunting for that matter but it was a political move by Blair as hunting was seen as un "upper-class" occupation - (although it's not). We are lucky the Left got booted out or pheasant shooting would have been next.

There was no move to ban the "working Man's" sport of fishing....

 

Not sure where they did that. Law was given and no one could interefere with the course. The hare got away free, thats the way it was.

Single handed coursing was also a good fair experience, one dog, one hare.

 

Will never come back.

 

So if shooting was banned by the next labour government, which many are interested in doing, there would be no need to have shotguns, would that mean they will remove the right to bear arms?

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I have no love for Blair but he tried to get middle ground as basically the guy is a silver spoon socialist. His cronies were not biting though and voted on ignorance and pure prejudice.

 

Hare coursing is not on the up, deer poaching with pit bull cross lurchers is. I mean why get done under the same act when the rewards are so much greater hunting deer instead? Well done the loony left

 

I don't think it's on the up, its just the same people doing what they used to do and police trying to drum up interest at the same time every year after the harvest.

 

It's always happened and always will, even when it was legal people where poaching.

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Not sure where they did that. Law was given and no one could interefere with the course. The hare got away free, thats the way it was.

Single handed coursing was also a good fair experience, one dog, one hare.

 

Will never come back.

 

So if shooting was banned by the next labour government, which many are interested in doing, there would be no need to have shotguns, would that mean they will remove the right to bear arms?

 

We do not have that right- its the American constitution

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I don't think it's on the up, its just the same people doing what they used to do and police trying to drum up interest at the same time every year after the harvest.

 

It's always happened and always will, even when it was legal people where poaching.

Depends were you live, It's rife around Lancashire area...every week my mate ( who is a bobby) tells me about deer bits being found, the same type of people being stopped at silly hours with long dogs...and also people traveling up this way... Two blokes from Sheffield the other week, just said they were out for a drive..long dogs in the car, my mate sent them on there way, but they always return..

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I wonder how many of these hare coursing reports are people just walking their dog or a dog chasing a rabbit!

The same people that thought the banning hunting was a good thing are the same people reporting it now. they didn't know their **** from their elbow then so why would any one think they do now! :angry:

Some silly cow accused me of hair coursing when i was out walking my terriers and one was carrying a mixy rabbit she had caught, I did try to explain the law to her and the differences between a rabbit and a hare and the fact that there weren't any hares on the farm any way but she was having none of it so just told her to go F her self!

She even stopped at the nearest house to try to get them to call the police but as it was my dad he told her to do the same after trying to tell her that there weren't any hares on the farm. :lol:

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I have no love for Blair but he tried to get middle ground as basically the guy is a silver spoon socialist. His cronies were not biting though and voted on ignorance and pure prejudice.

 

Hare coursing is not on the up, deer poaching with pit bull cross lurchers is. I mean why get done under the same act when the rewards are so much greater hunting deer instead? Well done the loony left

Do not think your right there, some of the lads coursing are matching their dogs for thousands, a lot more than a couple of venison haunches sold in the local.

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Do not think your right there, some of the lads coursing are matching their dogs for thousands, a lot more than a couple of venison haunches sold in the local.

 

The operative word their is "some" here we are talking number of incidents. Deer have been being decimated here over the last two years, we have plenty Hares and although its not flat enough for best of five betting and plenty come on poaching rabbits you never get them with hares in the bag.

Of course I was raised in a family were running dogs were the way and in the 70s and 80s far greater numbers were coursed IMO, both legally in events like the Waterloo cup and illegally on best of

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We do not have that right- its the American constitution

 

We have the right to own a shotgun, it is the police/Feo etc that have to prove you are not suitable/possible psycho. So as long as you have not broken the law anyone can have a shotgun also without any need to prove what you will use it for.

Depends were you live, It's rife around Lancashire area...every week my mate ( who is a bobby) tells me about deer bits being found, the same type of people being stopped at silly hours with long dogs...and also people traveling up this way... Two blokes from Sheffield the other week, just said they were out for a drive..long dogs in the car, my mate sent them on there way, but they always return..

 

Yes but it's not increased just given more focus now.

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We have the right to own a shotgun, it is the police/Feo etc that have to prove you are not suitable/possible psycho. So as long as you have not broken the law anyone can have a shotgun also without any need to prove what you will use it for.

 

Yes but it's not increased just given more focus now.

 

I was referring to the bit and I quote "right to bear arms " we have the right to own a sporting shotgun if we pass security conditions and do not pose a danger, the very statement "bear arms" might disqualify an applicant I feel. I have a pet hate about getting the American constitution bill of rights mixed up with English Law, some watch to much TV perhaps?.

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I was referring to the bit and I quote "right to bear arms " we have the right to own a sporting shotgun if we pass security conditions and do not pose a danger, the very statement "bear arms" might disqualify an applicant I feel. I have a pet hate about getting the American constitution bill of rights mixed up with English Law, some watch to much TV perhaps?.

 

Too busy dreaming about being on the marsh in my spare time if not already on the marsh.

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Anybody hare coarsing now must want there head looking at the fines are stupid they can take your car of ya and even ban you from driving iv been into all country sports all my life but the best by far was coarsing the hare have shoulder the worst of this stupid ban and the shooting community have dun the hares no favers shoot um all to keep the dogging lads of how many times have I herd that nobody with half a brain would bother now the fines are to much and just not worth it the only way now it to carry a shot gun and use ya lurcher to flush hares it's not your fault you don't have a safe shot as long as you have land to go on there's always away round it same as fox hunting

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