aw1967 Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 I am not new to shooting - I have been shooting clays (or shooting near them to be accurate) for a few years and finally made my application for my certificate Am awaiting my inspection visit and will then go shopping so would be grateful for a bit of advice I have shot a few Berettas and was pretty much decided on a Silver Pigeon - new or used depends on my half year bonus - but then I started really looking at comparably priced guns and now am not decided I obviously want a gun that fits me but i also want it to look good even if its a budget gun. I have seen Bettinsolis, Franchis and Berettas that fit the bill Are there any in my price range (£500-£1,500) that I really should avoid for bad workmanship or materials because they all feel nice and sturdy but I don't want it shaken loose and rattling after 6 months Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Bottom end of your price range - Lanber are well regarded - one was listed in the trade sales from POWYS Guns a week or so ago Mid to top end - Berretta 682 Gold E - Used and also the usual Brownings - 525 on - you may get a second had 725 for that but one of the biggest threads on here recently has been about somebody having problems with one of these. Berreta SP - I was advised by my coach that for clays they werent ideal Best advice though is to go to a RFD and try out a few for fit - if you have RFD's local with a range you more than likely will be able to try a few (second hand or demo). If you find one before your license comes through most RFD's will hold with a deposit. Be aware that for my license to come took over 3 months (N.Wales) and 3 weeks from the actual home visit. Others will be along shortly with better advice than my Novice witterings above Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 My advice is try before you buy and buy used as stated above a 682 should be in your price range it's a step up from the 686 there are also things like the SV10 at top of your budget perhaps even a Caesar guerini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 I must admit a preference for Berettas - I like the shallow action. I would probably buy a 687 again and as has been said on here - the earlier guns seemed to be better made. I have had mine for 20+years and I still enjoy it. As HDAV says try before you buy. I bought mine after finding I surprised myself on clays. I still think its the gun and not me ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Yiou would be far better buying a used Beretta rather than a new brand of lower quality. I have used a 687 for over 20 years, lovelly gun, no issues what so ever despite getting very little by way of servicing but it is cleaned religiously every time out. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecash Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 When buying a Beretta i would be inclined to ignore those with "X-Tra Grain" stock finish. if you have bigger hands then maybe a Miroku would be a good choice Most important thing, first and last, is "fit". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aw1967 Posted October 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Thank you all for your advice - food for thought It's been over 4 weeks since my home visit and today I have been told the should have cleared their backlog by the end of the month. I live in Hampshire and so far it has been 8 and a half weeks, so maybe a total of 10 weeks against their current estimate of 13 weeks! Better than the reported 6 months they were taking last year There aren't many RFDs too close to me, but a lot within 40 miles and a couple of grounds with shops about an hour away so I will be doing a lot of driving to find the right gun As for the 682, 687 and the often quoted 686 - what is the difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 I think 687's were game guns - mine is, fixed chokes 1/4 and 1/2. As for the others - cant help but HDAV seems to know a thing or two about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 (edited) As for the 682, 687 and the often quoted 686 - what is the difference? The 682 was a competition gun, the 686 was a workhorse in various versions and the 687 was a pretty version of the 686. Good luck Edited October 15, 2014 by TIGHTCHOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 (edited) The 682 was a competition gun, the 686 was a workhorse in various versions and the 687 was a pretty version of the 686. Good luck +1it was designed to munch clays, lots of clays, heavier than the equivalent 686 and some other features/slight differences (there are at least 2 types of 682 actions one (earlier?)is wider) http://www.guntrader.co.uk/Guns-For-Sale/Beretta_Shotgun_SV10-Perennia-3_For-Sale_131214162012001 http://www.guntrader.co.uk/Guns-For-Sale/Beretta_Shotgun_682-Gold-E_For-Sale_140801154553150 http://www.guntrader.co.uk/Guns-For-Sale/Beretta_Shotgun_682-Gold-E_For-Sale_140901155743001 http://www.guntrader.co.uk/Guns-For-Sale/Beretta_Shotgun_682-SPORTER_For-Sale_140411084845001 (nice wood) As i said at the top of your budget but there are hundreds to choose from and Miroku certainly worth a look. http://www.guntrader.co.uk/Guns-For-Sale/Miroku_Shotgun_MK-38-Grade-3-TEAGUE-SPORTER_For-Sale_140319142324001 Older but wonderful gun http://www.guntrader.co.uk/Guns-For-Sale/Miroku_Shotgun_3800-SW_For-Sale_130705150752001 Real Quality Over budget but stunning http://www.guntrader.co.uk/Guns-For-Sale/Miroku_Shotgun_MK-38-Grade-5_For-Sale_140915203700423 Edited October 15, 2014 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAsh Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Bettinsoli are good quality italian guns at about 2/3 the price of the big two Bs, have good 10year guarantee, crome barrels, always nice to have a new gun. All the guns mentioned are good all are cnc made so good fits between parts, many smaller makes have possibly better wood than the browning/baretta as they both seem to keep the good wood for there mid range guns orhigher spec starters and make more money and leave the basic guns with very plain stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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