chrisjh Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 just watching Zulu on the TV would this be made today , is it racist in its depiction of an invading colonial power ethnically cleansing the rightful inhabitants from their land. or is it just a right good romp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 Well it wasn't made today and it is a damned good film! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crowdie2013 Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 Based on a true story ~ guns had sub 100m killing range so would need a few pairs of spare pants! Zulus were fearless. All part of the English colonizing story........ Still a good film! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorismyhero Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 amd if you watch it with an open mind it actually shows what an honourable enemy the Zulu were Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 You could say that about a lot of war films, cowboys and indians another example Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 Of course it has a place , we cannot deny history , otherwise films such as schindlers list would not have been made either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 Of course it has a place , we cannot deny history , otherwise films such as schindlers list would not have been made either. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terence Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 Must have watched this a dozen times but when there singing at end always sends a chill down my back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lampwick Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 zzzzzzzzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 Yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wascal Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 *** this constant apologizing has got to stop. I am not going to apologize for something one of my ancestors may have done 130 years ago How far back should we go? I blame the Romans for the low pay in Norfolk , should the Italians pay me compensation I am personally responsible for my actions NOW ! That's all. RANT OVER P.S. great film Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 A film about a brave few surviving against the odds, a lot of VC's won that day, all led by Lt Chard VC RE. As said I will not apologise for the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartward Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 Just watched it great film Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashman Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 just watching Zulu on the TV would this be made today , is it racist in its depiction of an invading colonial power ethnically cleansing the rightful inhabitants from their land. or is it just a right good romp Yes, it's great, isn't it? If any apology is required, it relates to the false Welsh tone of the film. Still, the officers were English.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisjh Posted December 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 Yes, it's great, isn't it? If any apology is required, it relates to the false Welsh tone of the film. Still, the officers were English.. good point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta06 Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 just watching Zulu on the TV would this be made today , is it racist in its depiction of an invading colonial power ethnically cleansing the rightful inhabitants from their land. or is it just a right good romp The British were building an Empire - not ethnically cleansing! We wanted the locals to work for us, not to erase them from the planet. *** this constant apologizing has got to stop. I am not going to apologize for something one of my ancestors may have done 130 years ago How far back should we go? I blame the Romans for the low pay in Norfolk , should the Italians pay me compensation I am personally responsible for my actions NOW ! That's all. RANT OVER P.S. great film The Romans were not Italians - they were Roman! Ask any Roman (even today) if he is an Italian, he will say 'no'!! They are a noble, precious bunch of folk :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 (edited) Great film but the effects were cack, just watched some of it and one of ours gets the tip of a spear to the stomache no more than an inch or two and immediately falls over dead, pure cack on that score. I know some women who'd call that a scratch and batter you senseless. Edited December 27, 2014 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mudpatten Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 Is it racist? By God yes it is! Such a film would most certainly NOT be made today. It`s portrayal of the Welsh as a lot of country bumpkin dimwits sent off to the far flung corners of Empire,miles from any sheep, to fight and die for the evil English would simply not be allowed in these devolved and enlightened times. The only true part of this gross misrepresentation of ethnic stereotypes is the fact that ALL Welshmen, for some strange reason known only to themselves, think they can sing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 Regimental song wasnt men of harlech until after the battle. Hook wasnt a drunkard. And how was it ethnic cleansing?probably the silliest comment on here in 2014. Do some research please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 Is it racist? By God yes it is! Such a film would most certainly NOT be made today. It`s portrayal of the Welsh as a lot of country bumpkin dimwits sent off to the far flung corners of Empire,miles from any sheep, to fight and die for the evil English would simply not be allowed in these devolved and enlightened times. The only true part of this gross misrepresentation of ethnic stereotypes is the fact that ALL Welshmen, for some strange reason known only to themselves, think they can sing! Might not be pc about the Welsh but so true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 And most of them weren't Welsh. They were from Birmingham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rimotu66 Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 Well it wasn't made today and it is a damned good film! +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 And most of them weren't Welsh. They were from Birmingham. As was the case back in the day ,Regiments were made up of people from all over the British isle. Welshmen at Rorke's Drift Once again, the film 'Zulu' makes a point of suggesting that the 24th Regiment, and in particular 'B' Company, was mainly Welsh. In fact, the Welsh constituted only 11% of the 24th. Regt. at Rorke's Drift. Although the regiment was then based in Brecon in South Wales and called the 24th. Regiment of Foot (later to be the South Wales Borderers), it was formerly the Warwickshire Regiment. Many of the defenders had never been to Brecon. Of the 24th Regt. at the defence, the numbers (Source: 'The Noble 24th. by Norman Holme), 49 were English, 18 Monmouthshire,16 Irish, 1 Scottish, 14 Welsh and 21 of unknown nationality. 'This is a Welsh regiment, although there are some foreigners in it mind'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 The film wouldn't have such success if it was a gang of brummies would it? Is that racist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted December 27, 2014 Report Share Posted December 27, 2014 I love the film but it does make me think what would the world be like today if not just us but the rest of the European countries had not invaded Africa/India/|China etc etc how would Africa have done before we invaded them they had there own counties with there own leaders/kings could they have gone on and developed like we did both China and India had there own way of running things did we do good or did we do bad I for one have no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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