matone Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 It`s on again now,looks like the zulus are losing again ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 The Welsh, brave fighting troops ....particularly when officered by white men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 It`s on again now,looks like the zulus are losing again ! If you keep on watching it over and over again the zulus have got to win one day I would have thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 Of course it has it's place, the remastered version is great. It's my young son's joint favourite film, alongside Waterloo with Rod Steiger and Christopher Plummer. We used to have a very noble gent called Chard who used to grace these pages. Noble? Chard? Yeah right. The rose tinted specs of history may be affecting you there buddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 The Welsh, brave fighting troops ....particularly when officered by white men White men?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaunda Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 I note that Colour Sgt Bourne was wearing his medals whilst busily bayonetting the black marauding hoardes,and did you see that the 27th Zulu from the left in the fourth charge on the redoubt was wearing a Rolex ? Probably fake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 It's a great film but not overly accurate if you go to Rorke's Drift and stand in the small room Hook volunteered to defended you realise how small the whole place was and brave. And to think one of the VC winners died and was buried as a pauper near Twickenham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 Always find it strange why the Zulus didn't just all rush in, suppose it was the mentality of warfare at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 The problem is all of these films and TV programs was made in the Briton of pree 1970 when for the most part there was not many black brown or any other colour faces to be found except for in some large towns so we was taught in school history from a British/white perspective the only foreiner that I came across when I was young was Welsh or Scotish or even someone from up North every once in a while an Arab man would come around selling rugs but that was it. Today things are quite different we have people living here from all over the world and all now British I am not saying that this is good or bad just that is the way that things are its just a different country to the one that I was raised in and it makes everything much more complicated and even what does it mean to be British. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapp Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 I have set this to record to check out some mistakes that I had not noticed the previous 3-4 times I watched it. It has come to my attention that some Fellows at the back appeared to be wielding Enfield rifles and some were visibly pretending to work the bolts,Enfield fashion even though Martini's were Falling block actions with the lever under the action. Also it seems they were firing smokeless powder twenty years before it was invented. If the film was to be remade today,we would probably be informed that a SEAL team actualy defended the station. I wonder which American actors would be the main players. You'll also see them using Magazine Lee Enfields in the bit where the soldiers form two ranks to drive the Zulus back from a breech in the rampart. This is because they ran out of blank ammunition for the Martini Henrys at one point and so had to use MLEs with smokeless .303 blank. The revolvers in the film are also incorrect for the period. Someone also mentioned CSgt Bourne wearing his medals - there are a few strange things about the uniforms in the film, really basic things which is odd given that it was not made long after National Service had finished so many of teh cast and crew would have served. For example, CSgt Bourne wears an incorrect rank badge on the wrong arm. He has three white chevrons, whereas he should have had 3 gold chevrons and a pair of crossed flags surmounted with a crown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 I note that Colour Sgt Bourne was wearing his medals whilst busily bayonetting the black marauding hoardes,and did you see that the 27th Zulu from the left in the fourth charge on the redoubt was wearing a Rolex ? Probably fake. that was my uncle Enezezelo yes it was a fake (smiths) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 just watching Zulu on the TV would this be made today , is it racist in its depiction of an invading colonial power ethnically cleansing the rightful inhabitants from their land. or is it just a right good romp its based on a historical event i believe so i dont think it has anything to do with race Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 White men?? wasn't the colour sergeant then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sha Bu Le Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 I like Zulu......whether it has a place in 2014/5 is a matter of opinion. It depicts a historical event as does Ashandawa (spelling) when around 1500 British soldiers were killed by Zulus. Which would be more PC to show, Zulu or Zulu Dawn. Anyhoos Mrs S cannot abide Zulu............(hahah I have it on dvd). Stop frowing those spears at me !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 If you keep on watching it over and over again the zulus have got to win one day I would have thought. It`s just the same with Adolph`s lot ! Always make a promising start and then get done over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 The Welsh, brave fighting troops ....particularly when officered by white men The joke is that my father was drinking in the Hay-on-Wye British Legion with a number of locals when an old English sweat joined the party whilst they were discussing "Zulu". At the first part of the above quote, the Welsh chests swelled with pride, and after the second, I believe that the speaker just escaped with his life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuddster Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 apparently, in the 80/90's Zulu was always playing in the background at Police feeding centres over the bank holiday notting hill carnival. allegedly. f. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 I think some may like to read up on Shaka and the ethnic cleansing by his imperialist Zulu tribe of their fellow Nguni peoples and others. Regimental song wasnt men of harlech until after the battle. Hook wasnt a drunkard. And how was it ethnic cleansing?probably the silliest comment on here in 2014. Do some research please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 The film Zulu has it got a place in 2014 You can ask that about vast numbers of films, and not just from this country. Frankly, I don't get the point of the question, do you want to ask the same about the Snowman as well, after all we are perpetuating a myth and conning the next generation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbower Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Yes . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 The op implied it was ethnic cleansing by the British hence my response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Oh, I agree. The Zulus did go in for ethnic cleansing. I meant the op might like to have a read up on Zulu history. The op implied it was ethnic cleansing by the British hence my response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadeye18 Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Good film!i dont believe its rascist at all.and yes i believe it would have been made today as its an epic story of bravery in the field.would be good if they remade it but im sure theyd put a lefty liberal apologetic slant on it making the british out to be barbarians.although fictional they did remake the four feathers about 10 years ago and was that rascist..nope.just a brilliant story worth telling.think ill have to get a brew going and watch it this afternoon now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chacotawas Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Read "The Washing of the Spears" by Donald R.Morris, currently available (used) from World of Books for £3.29. The definitive (I think) story of the Anglo-Zulu war. Good read if you like that sort of thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 my mistake apologies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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