Roly Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Have been experiencing issues with primer fit on once fired hulls and wondered if substitution from the CX2000 to the slightly bigger Rio G-1000 to resolve would cause any issues with the following fibre load. 24gr Vectan AS 4mm Nitro Card 21mm Fibre Wad 30g lead Would I need to change powder load gr? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 The Rio primer is reportedly a bit hotter than a CX2000. That load looks hot already so I would avoid anything that might increase the pressures any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 Have been experiencing issues with primer fit on once fired hulls and wondered if substitution from the CX2000 to the slightly bigger Rio G-1000 to resolve would cause any issues with the following fibre load. 24gr Vectan AS 4mm Nitro Card 21mm Fibre Wad 30g lead Would I need to change powder load gr? Cheers The Rio primer is reportedly a bit hotter than a CX2000. That load looks hot already so I would avoid anything that might increase the pressures any more. i think that load is hot, it might even be under saami 11,500psi, but i cant say for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morningflight Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 I use 21.5 grains as with a plastic wad cx2000 29 gram lead, so looks hot to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roly Posted February 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 Thanks for your experienced response guys I need to double check my posted recipe information as i'm sure that recipe was provided by someone on here. Ideally what combination would work using the Rio primer the Vectan AS and Fibre wad components listed? Morningflight you said you use 21.5 grains with a plastic wad and a CX2000. Would that powder charge 21.5 grains work bearing in mind he primer change and the lesser gas seal characteristics of nitro card fibrewad v's plastic wad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super sharp shooter Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 (edited) When I loaded up 25grn of a1 with fibre wad and a plastic gas seal 32gl ead I got a max pressure of 777bar so 24grn would be bang on the max pressure according to the proof house. Get the superglue out on those primers Oh your using AS Edited February 2, 2015 by super sharp shooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 Thanks for your experienced response guys I need to double check my posted recipe information as i'm sure that recipe was provided by someone on here. Ideally what combination would work using the Rio primer the Vectan AS and Fibre wad components listed? Morningflight you said you use 21.5 grains with a plastic wad and a CX2000. Would that powder charge 21.5 grains work bearing in mind he primer change and the lesser gas seal characteristics of nitro card fibrewad v's plastic wad. I would suggest finding someone with a chrono and seeing how it fared. AS will burn quite cleanly if it is reaching good pressures so if there is a lot of residue or unburnt powder in the barrels it can mean the charge needs upping a little to clean it up. Always done with great care and small increments of course and the cold weather will also cause poorer ignition so can be a bit misleading. This is why it's best to find a verified recipe or get your own loads proofed. BTW, I just looked and found your recipe on the old Clay&game reloading CD so it may be OK but a lot of the recipes on there have been found to be very dodgy it must be said. Reloading eh, why do we bother When I loaded up 25grn of a1 with fibre wad and a plastic gas seal I got a max pressure of 777bar so 24grn would be bang on the max pressure according to the proof house. It's AS not A1, I used to load 24grains of A1 with a z21 and 32grams of shot IIRC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roly Posted February 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 Thanks Sitsin not quite sure why I bother! Maybe I'll look into A1 then, as I know SSS second home is the Proof House Hey Scott we need to have a chat. Hope your keeping well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super sharp shooter Posted February 2, 2015 Report Share Posted February 2, 2015 (edited) It's good to talk Lee. Give me a ring. I've got a couple of tubs of A1 if you want some. Edited February 2, 2015 by super sharp shooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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