Paddy Galore! Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Hi chaps, does anyone know when they stopped putting asbestos in artex? i'm having some work done and it'd be nice to know. ta, Paddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Mid eighties I believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 It was 1984 that it was banned as an additive to artex. as a rule of thumb if the house was built pre or during the early 70s it's likely. During the late 70s early 80s unlikely and post 84 v unlikely. best be safe if unsure and get it tested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flynny Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) It wasn't banned in some products till the late 90s, but from the mid 80s it could contain asbestos or it could contain none, depending if the artex used contained any!!Unless you have it tested you'll never know. It's encapsulated at the moment ie proberbly painted in. It's only dangerous if you start sanding it etc. Atb Flynny Edited February 9, 2015 by flynny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted February 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 cheers chaps, it was built in '95 so I think i'm clear, It wasn't banned till the late 90s, but from the mid 80s it could contain asbestos or it could contain none, depending if the armed contained any!!Unless you have it tested you'll never know. It's encapsulated at the moment ie proberbly painted in. It's only dangerous if you start sanding it etc.AtbFlynny you posted about a second before me flynny, I think i'll take a sample to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flynny Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 cheers chaps, it was built in '95 so I think i'm clear, Should be reet then, Atb Flynny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) I work in the insurance repair game at the moment and after a recent Asbestos Course, we are qualified and instructed to take samples of all products likely to contain Asbestos if we are likely to disturb them,,,, Artex included. The dates as to the possibility of these products containing Asbestos have been found to be....... "Built or worked on up to the years 2000/2001" We are finding it mainly in Artex and Bitumen Adhesive/Marley floor tiles. Not often and in miniscule amounts [circa 0.01%] but that's enough for the insurance companies to instruct its removal. Hope this helps Edited February 9, 2015 by JKD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted February 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 done a bit of surfing, apparently the use of asbestos in anything was completely banned 1999/2000, the use of asbestos in artex or other artex like products stopped in '84. this doesn't count stocks of the product though which were still used until depleted. that's a bit of a worrying thought, I hate to think of the number of ceilings I've pulled down and replaced over the years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKD Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 done a bit of surfing, apparently the use of asbestos in anything was completely banned 1999/2000, the use of asbestos in artex or other artex like products stopped in '84. this doesn't count stocks of the product though which were still used until depleted. that's a bit of a worrying thought, I hate to think of the number of ceilings I've pulled down and replaced over the years Me too fella ! And old floor tiles, the square lino type ones. It's also in numerous other things which builders have been "removing and throwing in the skip" for many many years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Asbestos in Artex? Oh great! :( My living room is coated with the damned stuff and I hate it. Takes twice as long to paint and uses twice as much paint. Not to mention practically every ceiling in the house. All put there in 1978-80. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted February 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Asbestos in Artex? Oh great! :( My living room is coated with the damned stuff and I hate it. Takes twice as long to paint and uses twice as much paint. Not to mention practically every ceiling in the house. All put there in 1978-80. you need a plasterer, we just tend to cover them up now at work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Artex is not too difficult to remove safely. A steam stripper softens the product and when it is moist it is reasonably safe. Double bag the residue before it dries out. Don't try and scrape it, drill it or cut it dry. Alternatively bond it and skim over for a flat surface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Some of my walls are not very good and are lath and plaster. Probably why they got Artex in the first place. Scraping or steaming is a bit daunting and skimming isn't going to be that easy either as there's damned big lumps of it in places. If it was simple I would have done it by now. Does it affect value of house if I were to sell the place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted February 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 there's a bit more to it than that bud, you'll need to use heavy polythene dust sheets and make sure to collect every last bit, or it'll dry out again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogz25 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Textured coating, chrysotile as stated already any property with textured artexed ceilings pre 2000 may contain it. It is only a very low amount as stated 0.01%. I have asbestos training and remove ceiling re board and plaster. Or you could overboard encapsulate. But that would just be masking potential exposure for someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carman06 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Our house was built in 93 and survey said poss in our artex. None found on testing though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogz25 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 They say poss to cover themselfs as they are not sure. So always best to get checked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Adam Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Mine was built in the 70's and when I had a burst water pipe they pulled a shipping container onto my drive and emptied my house into it. Devastated doesn't even cut it. But that was for trace elements Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted February 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 Some of my walls are not very good and are lath and plaster. Probably why they got Artex in the first place. Scraping or steaming is a bit daunting and skimming isn't going to be that easy either as there's damned big lumps of it in places. If it was simple I would have done it by now. Does it affect value of house if I were to sell the place? try a tight coat of bonding first to take the lumps out, then skim a couple of coats of pva first though. I would've thought it's affect on the value is minimal, loads of places have artex ceilings still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostmaverman Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 I've scraped dozens of artexed ceiling before skimming them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyjack Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 uni bond artex, skim then uni bond again and re skim,done loads of jobs,no problems, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogz25 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 If I plaster over artex I used the artex sealer. As pva will wet the artex back up and can make the new plaster you skim on after peel back off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 Thanks for the tips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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