Uncle Albert Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 There are some great shot deals at moment. Fes and claygame. Just been checking up. Recently been down to John at FES Kent and the price of shot has actually gone down. Woopie!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrus1988 Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Recently been down to John at FES Kent and the price of shot has actually gone down. Woopie!! Just had a look at his special offers and see he's doing 9kg of lead delivered for £35, think I'll be ordering some myself at that price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 If your looking for a set of scales have a look at the MTM DS-750 scales on the usual "Auction site." Use digital scales as they are quicker and measure in grains as well as grammes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpaulc Posted February 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 If your looking for a set of scales have a look at the MTM DS-750 scales on the usual "Auction site." Use digital scales as they are quickeri and measure in grains as well as grammes.Excellent, I'll look for some. I'm much more of a digital kind of guy anyway. Thanks to all for some very positive comments and tips! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpaulc Posted February 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 Ok, so i got the hand tools from Underdog in the post today. (i'm still on the hunt for a 20g Lee Load-all) and i thought i would have a go and see if i could produce something. I haven't bought any 'parts' yet, so i had to dissect a cartridge to get the bits needed. I would like to point out that i didn't shove a punch pin down and onto a live primer, i removed the one in the empty cartridge and simply put that one back in again, which was easy using the longer bar with the drilled hollow in the end. Then, after putting the powder and then plastic wad in, it was tamped down just a little, again using the longer bar. then, poured in the shot and tapped down. Next, inserted into the tube and pushed the tube right down to the rim of the cartridge metal cap, the old crimp began to close back over, at which point the mushroom top piece was inserted and knocked down until it was firm, then use it it know the whole cartridge back out of the tube. - Hey presto, not a bag looking crimp and a re-sized cartridge which slips easily into the chamber. Here I was simply putting components from a eley vip 28gram #6 into used eley vip 28g #6 shell. Spot on, many thanks to Underdog! Now to look at buying the real bits needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 Great stuff A soft mallet is handy! Especially for new primers that are loose! The long rod squeezes the base wad onto the primer a little with a few taps! That looks like thick plastic, the crimp should be a little neater with thinner plastic. Thanks for buying it. U. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolkngood Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 Been to FES today but didn't have the powder I needed and only had #6 shot in stock. Is there anyone in Suffolk who will be ordering powder/shot from FES in the near future so we can share the postage costs? If not it's another drive down to Folkestone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Been to FES today but didn't have the powder I needed and only had #6 shot in stock. Is there anyone in Suffolk who will be ordering powder/shot from FES in the near future so we can share the postage costs? If not it's another drive down to Folkestone Out of interest what powder was you after? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolkngood Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 I'm a complete novice ( never loaded a single cartridge before). However I'm picking up two used PW loaders with 410 and 28 tooling tomorrow along with circa 1000 once fired Winchester AA 2 1/2" 410 hulls and 1000 Wincester AA red HS 410 Wads. For my first attempt, I intend to load a reliable and consistent 14 gramme 410 clay load. John at FES was very helpful and recommended Alliant410 powder for the components I already have. He said SP3 would be ok for heavier 3" 18-19 gramme 410 loads but would be very wasteful on the smaller loads. He had some Tecna in stock but advised me to avoid as it was very difficult to measure our consistently through the PW. Once I've mastered and tested these, I'll be looking to load some 24 gramme 70mm 28 bore cartridges for game and clay and John has recommended Vectan A0 for these and then I'll try some 3" 410 18-19 gramme game loads using his recommended SP3. Mechman has been extremely helpful and really do appreciate everyone's help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 Sounds like good advice, as a novice it is best to use powders that volume meter consistently especially for the small gauges as they only use a liitle powder. SP3 is good powder for 3" .410 You can use several powders for the 2.1/2" but it may be best to avoid the bulky flake type of powders as they may not meter so well in very small quantities and take up more case space so I can see why Alliant .410 was suggested. Welcome new reloader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolkngood Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) Anyone know who stocks Alliant410? The nearer to East Anglian the better? Or recommended another suitable 410 powder for the previously mentioned loads? Edited February 26, 2015 by Suffolkngood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 I did OK with A2400 and H110. Lil'gun is good so I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian28 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 What model P/W loaders are you picking up 800 realy setup for 2 3/4" ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted February 27, 2015 Report Share Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) Anyone know who stocks Alliant410? The nearer to East Anglian the better? Or recommended another suitable 410 powder for the previously mentioned loads? Have a word with those at Clay and Game. If they ain't got it they may be able to recommend someone who has. I only reload for 12 bore and get shot and wads by mail order from FES. You can't get down there for the £9.50 or so postage so it is worthwhile. Powder and primers I get together with a mate and we go down, splitting the cost. I use Vectan powder which is half the cost of the American powder. As yet, the books don't often carry recipes using the European powders such as Vectan which is a pity. Fortunately FES has them and will get you one if he hasn't. If you want to reload for clays then you would do well to get hold of a press. Mind you I don't know how many shells you normally shoot and how often? Edited February 27, 2015 by Uncle Albert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAB1954 Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Anyone know who stocks Alliant410? The nearer to East Anglian the better? Or recommended another suitable 410 powder for the previously mentioned loads? Hi. I do not load 410 but I have American Data [Lyman & BPI] for the powders Underdog mentions plus others however I don't know what powders for 410 are available in UK. If you need any data just PM with a list of your components and I will see what I can find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolkngood Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 What model P/W loaders are you picking up 800 realy setup for 2 3/4" ? They're 2 x Duomatic 375's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpaulc Posted February 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 (edited) So I've found a good source of 65mm empty cartridges, any recommended data ? Max lead load? Edited February 28, 2015 by cpaulc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Dump them and use 70mm, life will be much easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 So I've found a good source of 65mm empty cartridges, any recommended data ? Max lead load?I don't remember what I made that tool to! Think it was 70mm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpaulc Posted February 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Fair point on tbe'dump them' comment, its just a supply it I wanted from a local shooting school that has their own branded cartridges.it does seem the most data to to 70mm The tool is for 70mm really, but just tried it on 65mm and it worked just fine! A credit to yhoyr tooling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted February 28, 2015 Report Share Posted February 28, 2015 Fair point on tbe'dump them' comment, its just a supply it I wanted from a local shooting school that has their own branded cartridges.it does seem the most data to to 70mm The tool is for 70mm really, but just tried it on 65mm and it worked just fine! A credit to yhoyr tooling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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