Wookie Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 The change in spec is often due to the change in situation of the platform being developed. If you're fighting a conventional war, and expect to be doing s for a while, you want stuff that works in that environment. If you change to something else, the widget that you ordered might be useless and so will either have to be canned before delivery or changed before deployment. Think about how much money the RAF spent making it's whizzy new fighters capable of dropping bombs. Or putting the cannon back in that they had originally ordered, then had removed. Think Navy with the carriers' catapults and arrestors. In the meantime, the Army gets to use 30+ year old rifles with new bits bolted on and Landies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandalf Posted February 24, 2015 Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Got it in one Wookie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJW Posted February 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2015 Sorry to play Devils Advocate, but surely no UK government would leave us willingly exposed... Perhaps they know something we don't .. have an ace up their sleeve... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 I would willingly pay more tax if it meant having a properly salaried and more capable armed forces at this point in time . 100, 000 does not seem enough with only a fraction of that combat soldiers . The countries who oppose us can field many more . Cant help recalling the Iranians capturing uk sailors making us look like pussies . I dont think it would actually cost that much, if anything, because they would just be reducing the unemployment figures so its just moving money from one budget to another. And they could use the soldiers for practical work as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth82 Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 23 Feb 2015 I would willingly pay more tax if it meant having a properly salaried and more capable armed forces at this point in time . 100, 000 does not seem enough with only a fraction of that combat soldiers . The countries who oppose us can field many more . Cant help recalling the Iranians capturing uk sailors making us look like pussies . Ha ha ha Hms Cornwall my old ship, I'd just left her when that happened, I was good friends with those that were captured, all down to politics and they had just mistakenly crossed into their territorial waters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookie Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 Except that they had not crossed over... Have you not seen the photo of the handheld Garmin unit showing the Lat/Lon of the boats when they were captured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth82 Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 No it wasn't, it was all incorrect as the government select committe proved a year later in the investigation into the failures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted February 25, 2015 Report Share Posted February 25, 2015 23 Feb 2015 I would willingly pay more tax if it meant having a properly salaried and more capable armed forces at this point in time . 100, 000 does not seem enough with only a fraction of that combat soldiers . The countries who oppose us can field many more . Cant help recalling the Iranians capturing uk sailors making us look like pussies . Ha ha ha Hms Cornwall my old ship, I'd just left her when that happened, I was good friends with those that were captured, all down to politics and they had just mistakenly crossed into their territorial waters. No disrespect intended whatsoever . Just referring to Iranians crude tv antics at the time . Less professional navy might have provoked a big conflict . See they got the Aussies about that time too . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth82 Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 It was a huge blunder, the US basically created a box to patrol but failed to recognise they'd took part of Iranians waters, not much either but enough, and when the Cornwalls ribs were intercepting the suspecting smuggler on the chow they crossed the line unknown to them provoking a response. A massive political gain for Iran and another blunder for us.:-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STOTTO Posted February 26, 2015 Report Share Posted February 26, 2015 I would willingly pay more tax if it meant having a properly salaried and more capable armed forces at this point in time . 100, 000 does not seem enough with only a fraction of that combat soldiers . The countries who oppose us can field many more . Cant help recalling the Iranians capturing uk sailors making us look like pussies . I wonder what the (real) Russian defence budget is as a proportion of its GDP and also what is the percentage of the population, men and women that have had military training and are therefore capable of bearing arms against its perceived enemies?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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