Jay_Russell Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 Its looking like ill be taking over pigeon dutys over 800-900 acres of land and with new work patterns, its meaning i can get out 3-4 times a week. Because of the amount of carts ill hopefully be getting through i need to get cheaper carts. Anyone use the firsts for pigeon decoying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenholland Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 there's plenty of pigeon carts to chose from why firsts that's a clay load look up a few sites ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Russell Posted April 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 Because there cheap and stocked locally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 Express do a pigeon load which sells for £182/1000 up here. 29gram, FIBRE wad, 6 shot. If you are only going to be shooting over decoys to a range of around 30 yards, try Hull superfast FIBRE, 27 gram 7 1/2's at around £170/1000. I have used a lot of Eley firsts which were supplied at a ground where I was an Instructor, I was less than impressed with them and through an auto can be troublesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Russell Posted April 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 Cheers westerley, ill check both those out as i think there both stocked also. I seam to remember using some firsts in the past and were particularly dirty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 If your going out 3 or 4 times a week on 900 acres chances are you will not need too many cartridges at all . I am sure eley firsts will work fine as will anything else from 28 gram 7.5 upwards . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prawn Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 Personally don't like using Firsts i think they are dirty, kick bad and aren't that good. Would prefer to use a italian clay cartridge (half size bigger) or use a pigeon cartridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Russell Posted April 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 I think i might just do a couple of hours overtime a week and that would pay the difference so i could carry on using clear pigeon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Russell Posted April 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 I could get some Bonarchi 28gram not sure what model but there white carts for a very good price but cant find anything out about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 I think i might just do a couple of hours overtime a week and that would pay the difference so i could carry on using clear pigeon! Don't let others put you off, there is nothing wrong with shooting Eley firsts, or any other 7.5 shell for that matter, on pigeons. They will kill well enough. As Fenboy said, though, you may not have the need for too many cartridges if you are going to shoot that small a piece of ground so regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Russell Posted April 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 I meant i will have the chance to get out 3-4 times a week not actually out shooting that frequently, but i will have more time for reconasinse and observing so rather than going in cold on a saturday morning i might be able to get better days when ive got the gun out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted April 5, 2015 Report Share Posted April 5, 2015 I meant i will have the chance to get out 3-4 times a week not actually out shooting that frequently, but i will have more time for reconasinse and observing so rather than going in cold on a saturday morning i might be able to get better days when ive got the gun out. That makes more sense . 900 acres sounds a lot but its not enough to guarantee good results consistently , also much depends on what those acres are made up of crop wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 I'm not entirely easy with the 7.5 (biggest Eley First) as a general Pigeon cart, certainly fine at times but I would favour a 6, possibly even a 5 in some circumstances. Nothing wrong specifically with Firsts, although I have had the odd one that didn't want to play, and they do tend to be rather dirty, a bit like firing a confetti cannon at times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 my mate bought 250 of them and never hit any thing,i bought the last 50 off him and hitting well with them.i will buy the again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted April 6, 2015 Report Share Posted April 6, 2015 my mate bought 250 of them and never hit any thing,i bought the last 50 off him and hitting well with them.i will buy the again. I dont think the cartridge has anything at all to with you mate not being able to hit anything with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty* Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 I dont think the cartridge has anything at all to with you mate not being able to hit anything with them. I agree. All i ever use is 28g 7.5, they work well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Yes, and I have found them to be a perfectly acceptable cartridge, 28g fibre 7.5. My go to pigeon cartridge now at £40 for 250. Its looking like ill be taking over pigeon dutys over 800-900 acres of land and with new work patterns, its meaning i can get out 3-4 times a week.Because of the amount of carts ill hopefully be getting through i need to get cheaper carts.Anyone use the firsts for pigeon decoying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris1961 Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 (edited) Try lylevale english sporter 28gr no7.5 work fine in my semi. And cheep Edited April 10, 2015 by chris1961 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Personally I dont like these at all, the only only time I shoot them is about once a year and thats when I have robbed them off my farther when I join him on the clays. He only ever buys fibre wad eley firsts and is happy with them but I dont like them ! For me on pigeons I would look for the cheapest size 6 shot I could find. I would put the extra in and spend the money on the Gamebore`s. ATB Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie_79 Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 I have use eley firsts all the time for pigeons they work fine, between 3 of us we must have shot over 3,000 of them so far and they work fine, Don't let fancy packaging and excititing cartridge names fool you, 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 (edited) I have used the 7.5 Eley Firsts and found they were ok for close shots over decoys , but time after time they would not bring down pigeons cleanly at 40 yards. Most birds just left a cloud of feathers and flew on. And before anyone suggests they were well over 40 yards for the last decade I have been working part time for a wind farm builder doing bird surveys and after years of using a range finder to plot the hight of birds flying over the proposed wind farm site you get a very good idea of range. Edited April 11, 2015 by anser2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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