Bobby199 Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 So I'm looking for a really rough and ready, built like a tank 12B that will (hopefully) never go wrong! this is intended as a back up, pigeon, rabbit, fox rough gun. Sportarmi, 12B, double trigger (my prefrance), over under, 28in barrels, 1/2 & 1/4, 70mm chamber (I believe that's 2 3/4?), 15 3/4 stock. Will that stock be too big for me? (I'm medium- slight build 5' 10) Genral opinions greatly appreciated. [i have heard of thease having some trouble with one trigger setting of both barrels and the same upon closing the gun. Is this jus due to a worn out sear spring, that could happen to any gun?... Or don't touch with a barge pole?] Many Thanks, J Any advice most welcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 A friend had one some years ago. Cheap end of Italian market and his went off if you closed the gun heavily. A quick look inside the action left me with the impression it wasn't built to last. I would not buy or shoot one. Baikal are a better gun and cheaper. Don't do it. The stock has been lengthened if it is 15 3/4" - normally about 14 1/2". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby199 Posted May 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 £120 any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby199 Posted May 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Or would this be better: a baikal 27e , 12gauge, o/u, fixed choked, 1/2 & 3/4, 28" barrels, double trigger. For £100+ £30 for RFT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 An old Baikal would be my goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 The gun you discribed is what the Baikal was designed for. You may find the Baikal stock a bit short and a bit low in the comb but both can be cheaply fixed on a rough gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby199 Posted May 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 I am by no means at all knowledgeable about gun makes. But Mmm, I don't know because (and no offence) but I have had very good cheap guns before that people where telling me would be no good (because of there name). Does anyone have any personal experience of these guns? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 So I'm looking for a really rough and ready, built like a tank 12B that will (hopefully) never go wrong!this is intended as a back up, pigeon, rabbit, fox rough gun. Don't buy a Sportarmi then, I've had one, the Baikal is the better bet by far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 I am by no means at all knowledgeable about gun makes. But Mmm, I don't know because (and no offence) but I have had very good cheap guns before that people where telling me would be no good (because of there name). Does anyone have any personal experience of these guns? Not owned one but repair more of them than I have Baikali, in fact just cut one up last week as beyond economical repair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 I have owned a couple of Baikals - bomb proof and shot a friend's Sportami. I would not shoot with another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 15, 2015 Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 Bobby, contact Wabbitbosher and tell him your budget and what you want, he will find one for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby199 Posted May 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 thank you TIGHTCHOKE I will do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby199 Posted May 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2015 thank you TIGHTCHOKE I will do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 What have you bought then Bobby? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby199 Posted May 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I have bought a laurona O/U 12b from Wabbitbosher. Went to RFD today so hopefully he will send it soon Has anyone else had guns off Wabbitbosher? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Has anyone else had guns off Wabbitbosher? Most people with a SGC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Bobby - Laurona fits what you want. Built to last and very corrosion resistant. I have owned half a dozen. Very underrated guns. Different planet to Sportami. A whole lot of gun for the money. I honestly rate them highly. Wabbitbosher has a very good reputation on here - deservedly so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby199 Posted May 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Great, I'm certainly pleased chaps. His service so far has been exemplary, I just can't wait to get it in my hands! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby199 Posted May 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 And I got a brillant deal at the RFD today (when I went to sort out transphergh) I pick up some ends of cartridges... 104 pure gold 32g #5 felt for £25 (£6 a box) 25 pure gold 32g #6 felt for £4 25 mini magnum 40g #3 for £7.50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffolkngood Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 You only bought ONE gun from Wabbitbosher? Bloody hell, this is unheard of. Be careful, as everyone on here knows.........nobody buys just one gun from Wabbitbosher. Yours will no doubt multiply over night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby199 Posted May 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) I am sure of it! I have already said that I'll be back for more... I think a nice old SxS would be good If I'm ever in his aria (if anyone knows where that is?) I would love to pop buy and empty my bank account (although at his prices I might need a lorry ) Edited May 19, 2015 by Bobby199 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Bobby Mick is in Kettering, Northants! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby199 Posted May 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Not too far then , Thanks. I'll let you guys know how I get on with the gun once I have taken it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby199 Posted May 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) Could I have some advice please... (Although I'm pretty sure of the answer) The mini magnum 40g #3 will be fine for Foxes right? What kind of range, or just so I'm confident of the shot? I have only ever done overkill 50g+ loads but mainly rifles on foxes. And what do you think to those cartridges! Edited May 19, 2015 by Bobby199 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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