steve_b_wales Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 I didn't realise, but when I mentioned to my RFD friend about using my Phantom moderator on my new .17 Hornet, as well as my .22 Hornet, he told me that as it's not listed to be used on the .17 Hornet, I would be breaking the law. A quick phone call to my firearm licensing department, confirmed this, but they said that if I sent my license to them, and request that the moderator be used for the .17 Hornet, then that would be okay. I'll probably end up buying a new moderator for it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMcC Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 I have a moderator on my FC listed as a .30 calibre moderator. As I own a .308 and a 30-06 I often swop about and there is no way anybody can say I am working illegally. Miind you, it would be very unlikely anybody would be in the areas I use them so would not be able to challenge me anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted June 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 I have a moderator on my FC listed as a .30 calibre moderator. As I own a .308 and a 30-06 I often swop about and there is no way anybody can say I am working illegally. Miind you, it would be very unlikely anybody would be in the areas I use them so would not be able to challenge me anyway. I agree with you. I had a 308 moderator which was also used on my .243. And the only time that the police would have seen the two together would be if I had been stopped by them when travelling to or from my permission. But to keep things all legal, I'll send my certificate in soon to have it adjusted. The Phantom moderator has a 22-250 proof mark on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carman06 Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 My ticket doesn't specify the calibre for moderators just either Rimfire or centre fire so guess that is fairly flexible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaedra1106 Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 None of my moderators are listed to be used on specific rifles, just as 30 cal moderators or 22rf moderator, I frequently use one of the .30 cal mods on my 260rem as I already had them when I bought the 260 rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carman06 Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Mine just says for eg 2 x RF moderator, 3 x CF moderator, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted June 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 My FAC states, ' The .17 Hornet, .17 Hornet moderator, .22 Hornet rifle,.22 Hornet sound moderator serial number NVN shall be used for shooting fox etc etc. IF I was stopped by the police, and I had my .17 Hornet rifle, and .22 Hornet moderator, AND they checked ,my certificate and found that I hadn't bought a moderator specific for the .17 Hornet, they could take it further. Very unlikely, I know, but knowing my luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMcC Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 Mine just says for eg 2 x RF moderator, 3 x CF moderator, Wow, that would make a 1 for 1 at a gunshop a lot easier and relieve firearms departments of a lot of paper work too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted June 12, 2015 Report Share Posted June 12, 2015 My FAC states, ' The .17 Hornet, .17 Hornet moderator, .22 Hornet rifle,.22 Hornet sound moderator serial number NVN shall be used for shooting fox etc etc. IF I was stopped by the police, and I had my .17 Hornet rifle, and .22 Hornet moderator, AND they checked ,my certificate and found that I hadn't bought a moderator specific for the .17 Hornet, they could take it further. Very unlikely, I know, but knowing my luck! Think they could only give you grief if caught using the mod on wrong rifle, as you are entitled to hold it they couldn't do anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted June 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 Think they could only give you grief if caught using the mod on wrong rifle, as you are entitled to hold it they couldn't do anything I agree, and that is very unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 I'm not so sure you would be breaking the law. Nowhere on a FAC does it say that a particular moderator must be used with a particular rifle. All the conditions stipulate is what the particular firearm, and by firearm I mean rifles and moderators, may be used for. That being so you can use any combination of rifle and moderator to shoot quarry speciesauthorised. I truly don't see how I can break the conditions of my FAC by using my .17H rifle conditioned for fox and AOLQ with say my .25cal moderator which is conditioned for deer and AOLQ or for that matter my .17HMR mod on my .17H as both are conditioned for Fox and AOLQ. In fact, I only have one .30 cal mod, conditioned for Deer and AOLQ, which I use on my various .30 cal rifles. Nothing is stated on my FAC as to which rifle I must use it on and I have never hidden the fact that I use it on them all to the extent that over many renewals I have noted the fact on my renewal form. Charlie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savhmr Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 Mine are listed as specific moderators but listed separately to the rifles. The rifles are listed as suitable (ie cut for) use with moderators. I guess that means that I can chose which mod to use on which rifle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
activeviii Posted June 16, 2015 Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 I think the question had be answered already but just in case. Nowhere in the firearms law does it say you have to use said mod with said rifle. you asked for a moderator slot, they gave you one. you asked for a rifle slot, they gave you one. all they are is slots on your licence to hold and use. i have a .30 cal mod on my ticket. up until a couple of weeks ago i had no .30 slot for a .30 rifle but for a year i had the 30 mod slot and used the mod on all rifles. perfectly legal looking at it a different way. say you have 2 rifles on a licence. a 17 hh and a 22hh. that's two slots. is it illegal to carry and use both at the same time? nope. so why can't you use your 22 mod on your 17 rifle, your licenced to carry and use both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted June 16, 2015 Report Share Posted June 16, 2015 Mine was a list of rifles and moderators. No moderator specific to any gun. They changed it a couple of months ago to list each rifle along with its serial number and specific moderator in the conditions. I have no idea why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonbasher1 Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 I recently bought a .22hornet+ t4 mod, asi wasent impressed with the mod itried my sonic 35 mod of my .243, much better, so having a few niggles concerning the legality, I rang basc fireams dep, no problem at all they said, as all your mods are on ticket use them on whatever you like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 Some forces do this and to my mind it is more sensible they list rifles 308 222 etc then moderators 2 x CF moderators. To this sensible and correct I've yet to see a 308 win moderator but some for list them as such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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